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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:14 am
by Rook Zimbabwe
As for waiting to upgrade to Vista, if you buy a new PC today you get Vista so thats it.
Actually, I read in ComputerPowerUser just recently that DELL and HP have decided to allow users to once again PICK from XP PRO or VISTA... Because of customer complaints and excessive need for tech support.
We have had to advise our entire clientlist NOT to buy Vista. One major retailer decided we were stupid... threw 96 DELL VISTA ENTERPRISE PRO based machines out as BOH (Back of House) servers... Shut 96 stores down for 4 days...
We are billing them for the reintegration... hehehe
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:40 am
by Joakim Christiansen
I have Windows Vista on both my laptop and stationary computer now, I kinda like it because the user interface looks very good. And after disabling much of the services and annoying messages it works quite ok too. But I think the network sharing should be much easier to configure, right now it sucks if you want to do some advanced folder sharing.
And btw, I do still of course have Windows XP on another partition.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:34 am
by WishMaster
If there will be some Linux® to beat Microsoft Windows, it'll not be *buntu.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:36 am
by Kale
WishMaster wrote:If there will be some Linux® to beat Microsoft Windows, it'll not be *buntu.
It
Will.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:03 pm
by eesau
WishMaster wrote:If there will be some Linux® to beat Microsoft Windows, it'll not be *buntu.
Out of curiosity: why not?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:17 pm
by WishMaster
Just because Ubuntu ist the worst.
Re: Vista first impression.. it sucks..
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:18 pm
by techjunkie
utopiomania wrote:Just unwrapped my new PC with Vista on it, and my initial impressions of Vista is that it's
just like an American MM$ company has occupied it, and stick its nose into almost everything I try
to do with it..
Much worse than I expected, and I hope someone takes them down soon (=splits the company). It
wuold have ben much better if it came with a clean, safe OS on it, not this monolithic piece
of 'trying to be everything to everyone' piece of code Windows has grown into beeing lately.
Anyways, it will be interesting to check out PB programming and Vista, and I hope pb 4.1 will
be out of beta soon
BTW, the PC is a Lenovo 3000 V100 with Vista 'Business Edition' on it.
I thought so too at first, but then changed my mind. I was in the Microsoft PETA program for Windows Vista and the first early releases where really bad (that means that we test Vista on "real customers" in a very early stage).
With my new hardware - CPU 6600 Dual Core, 2 GB RAM, GPU 7600 512 MB and ASUS Commando mobo, Vista Ultimate works like a dream!! I have had NO problems with drivers and applications (Vista Certified) that I have installed. On the other hand, I have had a lot of problems with XP on the same hardware (it seems impossible to find a deasent sound driver for XP on that HW for example).
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:30 pm
by Tipperton
utopiomania wrote:As for waiting to upgrade to Vista, if you buy a new PC today you get Vista so thats it.
True, but I don't buy pre-built PCs, I always build my PCs from "hand picked" components.
Might be more expensive than buying a pre-built PC but this way I know exactly what I'm getting and don't get a lot of unneeded/unwanted pre-loaded crap with it.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:24 pm
by Joakim Christiansen
WishMaster wrote:Just because Ubuntu ist the worst.
I think it's ok, but I like PCLinuxOS much better! (especially the MiniMe version)
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:55 pm
by eesau
WishMaster wrote:Just because Ubuntu ist the worst.
Not much of an argument. What makes it worst?
I don't have much Linux experience myself, but I'm planning on moving over to using it soon, so I'd like to know.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:16 pm
by Kale
WishMaster wrote:Just because Ubuntu ist the worst.
Ubuntu is the
best!
Lol, here is a video outlining why Ubuntu is IMO the better of the rest. It has a clear goal; to be used by people who want to get stuff done, without the bloat. Windows better watch out.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 0932273543
A recent study has also concluded more development is growing with Linux:
http://developers.slashdot.org/article. ... 03/1816227
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:35 pm
by codemaniac
Ubuntu is the worst and Debian should be the best! Ubuntu tries to be "the Linux" more than they can give credit back to the Debian project.
Debian is about stability and production, Ubuntu is about ancient Africans and coffee, which pretty much proves that Ubuntu sucks and ain't beat Windows.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:56 pm
by Nik
Fighitng between the Linux distributions is definitely wrong. And yes coffee and ancient Africans are cool, but yeah Ubuntu's one way relationship with Debian may be a problem.
As long as we all agree taht OpenSource Operating Systems are good, they shouldn't figt each other.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:05 pm
by codemaniac
Nik wrote:Fighitng between the Linux distributions is definitely wrong. And yes coffee and ancient Africans are cool, but yeah Ubuntu's one way relationship with Debian may be a problem.
As long as we all agree taht OpenSource Operating Systems are good, they shouldn't figt each other.
You are right, but Ubuntu has been grown to a religion, and that is what makes me and many others very stinky
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:06 pm
by Nik
As has Mac OS X, maybe that's just what is needed to fight Microsoft. As long as everything important is OpenSource (which it will stay thanks to GPL) the changes can be used by other Distros as well even if that means mor work than it would if Ubuntu were cooperating better.