Sarkozy or Royal?

[Flype]

In America i feel that Royal is the favorite (for american governments and people), its the same in Europe?

Hummm, well i hope. But it's not sure at all - maybe - maybe not.

It's a bit more complicated here.
Ok, there's Sarkozy who can win, there's Segolene who have a chance.

But there's a 3rd man: Francois Beyrou which is actually the favorite (from recent survey). In fact, many people here thinks he is a good alternative.

And a 4th man, the worst, Le Pen - about 15% - in 2002 he win the 1rst turn and was at the 2nd turn against Chirac.

Nothing is done...

[ricardo]

OT: What do Argentinians dislike about Merkel, form my point of view she is dozen times better than Schröder was, however Schröder was miserable so that doesn't mean much.

Her absolute ignorance about America.

She use very rude words about some things in America (like the relation USA~Mexico) and she was wrong (really wrong) thinking that European Union was similar tu United States only because both mention some kind of Union.

People here dont know nothing about Schröder, but for sure most dont like Merkel. Maybe people are wrong, but thats the way ppl feels in this area about her.

[ricardo]

Berlusconi was seen as the mafia clown

Prodi is much better in the point of view of people here.

Okay, we know a little more about Italy because the relation. We have some argentine people in the parlament of Italy because the reason of much people here being descendent from Italians... but however people not only look at Italy politics, but from many other european countries.

[Progi1984]

Wow... french politics on english forums, I can't believe that !

@Karlkox : i believe that right and left exist just in France.

Royal and Sarko represents the two opposites of the France.

Sarko is a nationalist... not a extrem but he has some affinities with this side. He is dangerous and will be dangerous for the France. Achtung !

Royal is a woman and plays with this point. She can be dangerous for the France.

I think Bayrou have a lot of luck for win this election... because he is just in the middle and plays with this point ! He is the best alternative at this two dangerous people.

French are good players

All I hope is that "Le Pen is not going to the second turn"
All I say in this topic are my ideas !

[Lna]

Sarkolaine or Segosi ?

They didn't know how to answer to the question on the number of submarines that France possessed.
The elected president will be the chief of armies.

We have maybe some yellow submarines for to be able to recover them, and no one knows it.

I hope that the futur president won't forget to choose a direction before pushing on the red button. :roll:

French have a debt of -2500 000 000 000 Euros. And no one knows to that we owe this spending money, and where it passed.

Charles de Gaulle had said that French were veals, and every election confirms it.

French will have the president that they deserve as usual. Meuh yes.

@ peluche

[Nik]

@ricardo actually Schröder was much more against USA than Merkl is now although I guess this was kind of an ego trip as schröder realy only cares about himself (he is one of the heads of russian Gazprom oil company now which is realy not a place for a politician but for a mafia boss) However this ego trip saved us Germans and our French friends from going to Iraq into a war nobody can win. Merkel on the other side is much more intelligent I guess (she is a studied physicist) and her foreign politics seem pretty good to me (she realy tries to fight greenhouse effect for example) and from our point of view her distance towards the USA is pretty good aswell, while Schröder was really fighting for his own power and seemd to be seeing bush as a competitor for power he created a crisis in German-American politics, now Merkel tries to enhance the German-American reations again without loosing the sovereignety we got by avoiding Iraq war and through Schröders arrogance. I guess that brings us more on even ground while Germany has been kind of a pet for the USA for the last 60 years. I mean someone has to tell the USA that things like Guantanamo, the Iraq war and the kind of police state they build up with the fear of their people (there realy is no point in fearing terrorists especially in the USA those guys din't get a job done in the USA since 9/11 and doing a terrorist act isn't rocket science if it doesn't matter who you kill) is absolutely not ok and against the principles of democracy. I also think that the good thing about Merkel is that even when she tells Bush the truth he will respect her because he likes her (watch him look at her when they meet)

[KarLKoX]

Sarkolaine or Segosi ?

They didn't know how to answer to the question on the number of submarines that France possessed.
The elected president will be the chief of armies.

We have maybe some yellow submarines for to be able to recover them, and no one knows it.

I hope that the futur president won't forget to choose a direction before pushing on the red button. :roll:

French have a debt of -2500 000 000 000 Euros. And no one knows to that we owe this spending money, and where it passed.

Charles de Gaulle had said that French were veals, and every election confirms it.

French will have the president that they deserve as usual. Meuh yes.

@ peluche

Right, he is the chief of the army but he have a minister of army, do you think that in case of conflict, he will not ask opinions of various chiefs and to it's minister before pushing the red button ?
For me, knowing or not how nuclear submarine we have don't deserve them and, something funny, the journalist Mr Bourdin who ask them this is wrong : there is not 7 submarines but 6 with 4 nuclear attack.

[einander]

@Nik:
When Ricardo says america, I think he is speaking of The Americas, the continent, not the coutry USA.

[ricardo]

@Nik:
When Ricardo says america, I think he is speaking of The Americas, the continent, not the coutry USA.

Right.

America is the continent not only USA.

[einander]

America is the continent not only USA.

Pity that many think the opposite.
Back to the thread: My vote for Segolene.

women to the power!
perhaps they are less dumb than male politics..less corruptive

Like Margaret Thatcher supporting Pinochet.

[Nik]

@ricardo, sorry if that came across like that, it's probably because when we in Germany speak of the other states on the continent America we say either "South America" or "Canada", I know Mexico is not only on the southern part of the continent but nevertheless it's in the south^^
I don't really know much about Merkels policy towards the south but I guess she pretty much dislikes communism and too left wing parties^^

[flaith]

Unfortunately, a lot of people vote for their "leader" because he knows how to speak to the crowd, he's got a good face, he's kind with everyone ... during three months. They vote for a man/woman, not for a program, this is really dangerous, and sarko knows that very well, i'm really perplexed about our future...

[ricardo]

@ricardo, sorry if that came across like that, it's probably because when we in Germany speak of the other states on the continent America we say either "South America" or "Canada", I know Mexico is not only on the southern part of the continent but nevertheless it's in the south^^
I don't really know much about Merkels policy towards the south but I guess she pretty much dislikes communism and too left wing parties^^

We dont have socialist countries othern nthan Cuba and too left wing as the horrible Venezuela government.

But okay, i was only showing that Merkel shows her ignorance when talking about America.

[KarLKoX]

Cuba is a communist country, not a socialist one

[Flype]

Some french people are conscious of the dangerous potential of Sarkozy.

http://www.syti.net/SarkozyDanger.html