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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:44 am
by White Eagle
If I wanted to do something like that, I'd just use System Commander and install the old OS in a partition.
Ack!!!

Not a good way to go if you are a gamer, as contrary to the claim of somebody else, even trying to install Windows 95 on modern hardware is a nightmare, not to mention installing DOS or 3.1.

Unless you are using emulation, such as DOS Box, Most classic games do not get alog well with modern processors, memory, graphics cards, sound cards and input devices. Not to mention no modern hardware even ships with drivers for DOS, and 95 drivers are usually exlcuded due to lack of USB support and lack of support for other newer hardware interfaces.

Of course, I would be happy gettiing rid of all of my pcs and just using my TI-99/4A. I have had to replace the keyboard a couple of times, but it is still going strong and all the game cartridges still work fine. Tunnels of Doom forever!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:57 pm
by Tipperton
Yup, without patching Windows 95 won't run on modern machines because they are too fast.

DOS does run quite well but DOS games have timing problems (they run too fast).

I was just saying that if I wanted to run old DOS games, that that is how'd I'd set it up. Personally I'm not interested in any of the old DOS games so it doesn't really matter to me.

I do have a 32 MB DOS partition, its loaded with a variety of system maintenance tools like Ghost, Partition Magic, System Commander, etc.

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:18 pm
by White Eagle
I am sorry, in my exuberance for PB, I often forget that it is NOT a gaming only language, and often ramble on about gaming issues, which I am sure bores and irritates others :oops:

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:09 pm
by Tipperton
White Eagle wrote:I am sorry, in my exuberance for PB, I often forget that it is NOT a gaming only language, and often ramble on about gaming issues, which I am sure bores and irritates others :oops:
Doesn't bother me any... I love games and games are the primary reason I have a computer, problem is I rarely have time to play them... :(

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:13 pm
by Fluid Byte
Tipperton wrote:To me all the "eye candy" just consumes resources I'd rather have available to run my programs.
LMFAO! You said "eye candy"? I mean the XP skinning just applies some bitmaps on your windows and controls. They still look the same, it just adds more detail. Furthermore the functionality remains exactly the same, plus, you get some enhanced features. For example, try creating a combobox gagdet in PB with a height of 200. Fill it up with more items that would fit in the specified height. Now, with classic theme turned on the combobox will make the dropdown menu as high as you have specified. With XP theme enabled it will try to display as much items as theres space to the bottom. Well, nothing to fancy but there are quite a lot of these little features wich make XP skinng quite handy.

As for the resource thing...

This is nonsense to be honest. I think I don't need to tell you that as time passes by not only software becomes more complex but also the hardware grows with it as well. I have a fast nVidia GFX card and 1 GB Ram. Never noticed a tiny difference between running the OS with XP skinning either turned on or off.

And for christ's sake, it not 1998 anymore...

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:38 pm
by Bonne_den_kule
@Fluid Byte:
Totally agreed

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:53 pm
by GeoTrail
Trond wrote:
ricardo wrote:What can be de reason for still using w95???? Crazy? Joke? Rebel?

This is harder for me to understand that the UFO stuff or some other strange things he he
Install Windows 95 on a modern computer and see things FLY! It's fast!
Tried that, don't work hehehehe.
NOTHING works, I can't even the through the installation. I've tried Win95A, B, 98, 98SE AND ME. Don't work on my machine.

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:43 pm
by White Eagle
@GeoTrail, the one that really made me cry was when I could no longer install NT 4. I really loved that OS :cry:

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:11 pm
by GeoTrail
I used NT4 too, but has loads of bugs. I liker 2000 more :)

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:25 pm
by PB
> I can't even the through the installation

Did you try to install it on a FAT32 partition?

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:12 am
by GeoTrail
PB wrote:> I can't even the through the installation

Did you try to install it on a FAT32 partition?
Yeah off course. I remember having to partition my 300 GB drive to agazillion pieces to get it small enough, even tried fat16 hehehehe ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:46 am
by Tipperton
Fluid Byte,

Maybe so, but even if I wanted XP's skinning, none of the themes appealed to me as much as the classic theme does.

To each his own....

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:22 am
by Baldrick
At my work I have a 2.4Gh computer which I have set up as multiboot W98SE / Xp. both OS's work without problems & I have had no issues with harware compatability, etc. { HDD, I have formatted as FAT32 with 1 partition for W98 as C: and 1 for Xp as D: }
The reason for still having W98 on this computer is that due to the products I am having to support, I need DOS compatability as several manufacturers have no intention of upgrading software for what they class as obsolete product, but I still need to support them for the sake of existing clients. ( Actually 2 companies whose products I use are still manufacturing equipment that can only communicate with a computer using their DOS based software. :? )
As for W95, I still have a couple of 95 computers out in the field, they are actually running CCTV equipment in branches of a financial institution.
Mind you this bank is slowly giving in to the fact that the company who designed the CCTV software has now vanished from the face of the earth and are slowly replacing with proprietry equipment as these old W95 units fail.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:47 am
by GeoTrail
What? Windows 95 in a bank? What the name? and the IP. I will crash them and steal all their money :lol: :twisted: :evil:

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:06 am
by Baldrick
Lol, not quite. These units are definately standalone and not part of the main network and are accessible via dialup only. You have no idea how frustrating it is waiting for Jpg pictures to download through dialup!!
It does make me shake my head whenever I have to go to 1 of these sites due to their reliable [not] cctv systems are playing up again. :lol: