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Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:43 pm**

Try here: http://www.freewebhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

Although my personal opinion would be to sign up for 'pay' hosting at something like dreamhost... if you sign up for a year and use one of the various $97 coupons floating around the net, their hosting comes to just a bit over $2US a month... includes a massive amount of disk space and bandwidth.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:04 pm**

White Eagle wrote:
a professional solution like One.com
Probably because One.com is a gimmick host and just as worthless as the freebie hosts.

Since this is a programming forum, lets assume Fluid Byte wants to make a site to host games or apps he makes with PB.

From the One.Com TOS:

One.com's Website wrote:Subscribers are not permitted to store large amounts of data on the server for free download or reading without prior
agreement with One.com. The purpose is not to function as an external hard drive for the storage of data in formats such
as zip, mp3, jpg, etc.
That pretty much leaves out using the site to host any games or applications you make with PureBasic.

Traffic is basically unlimited. However, traffic must be normal in nature and not disrupt that of other customers.
If you make a game with PB and post it on your site and it gets listed at one or two shareware review sites, you are looking at 10-20GB of traffic a day in downloads. I am sure your site would be yanked from their servers very quickly.

This is similar to the magic "10% clause" that other gimmick hosts use. They promise outrageous amounts of monthly bandwidth for low prices, but then hide behind the "10% clause". They usually only have a handfull of servers and "stack them" by putting thousands of clients on each server. In the above scenario, with a game or app posted on a review site, even if you were within your "allotment" of bandwidth, because of the stacked servers you would be using more than 10% of the server resources and you would see your account yanked.

Hosting services I trust and put clients with:

Moderate use clients:
http://hostforweb.com

High volume clients:
http://www.lunarpages.com

Dedicated server clients:
http://www.serverbeach.com

I don't think One.com could be considered a gimmick hoster as they are the one of the biggest in Europe. Plus i assume Fluid Byte is wanting to be paid for his software so your argument about 'large amounts of data on the server for free download' pointless.

Also when you say that:
If you make a game with PB and post it on your site and it gets listed at one or two shareware review sites, you are looking at 10-20GB of traffic a day in downloads. Thats seems very high.

About One.com:

One.com is an innovative supplier of web hosting services. One.com (B-one) was established in 2002 in Denmark and is today one of the leading companies in Europe within the provision of domain names and sales of web hosting services.

Since the foundation of One.com (B-one) in 2002 by Jacob Jensen, One.com has experienced constant growth and has, today, more than 250,000 customers in 149 countries and handles more than 20,000,000 e-mails and 3,500,000,000 web page queries every month. (January, 2006)

Today, One.com has 55 employees, a healthy, strong financial position and is fully geared to meeting the potentials and challenges of the future.
Vision:

From the start, the vision was to offer a simple, flexible and user-friendly product to both entry-level and professional users.
Organisation:

In order to be as competitive as possible on all markets, both in relation to private and business customers, One.com has registered companies in Denmark, Dubai, England and Madeira.

In addition, we have sales offices in Germany and Holland.

One.com’s branch in Dubai is located in Dubai Internet City. Dubai Internet City is the ideal location for innovative companies as it provides the possibility of knowledge, sparring and collaboration with thousands of other IT companies.

Development and support departments are located in Dubai and Denmark, and, today, we provide support in English, Danish, German, Norwegian and Swedish. Our support departments answer more than 20,000 queries every month.
Networks & systems

In spite of the low price, quality has never been compromised. All servers are of the best Hewlett-Packard quality with redundant power supplies, mirrored SCSI disks with daily external tape-backup.

The systems are placed in a private server room at Interxion in Denmark. The server room has redundant power circuits, battery backup, diesel generators and a Vesda (Very early Smoke Detection Alarm) smoke alarm system.

Our backbone is fibre-based with redundant infrastructure. The total bandwidth is at present 2 x 1 Gigabit multi-homed attached and connected to 3 international carriers, Global Crossing, Deutsche Telecom and Level3, in addition to Danish Internet eXchange.

Servers, server rooms and the bandwidth are monitored around the clock, 365 days a year.

Why don't you actuall ring them up or email them and ask about usage before making ill informed statements? :roll:

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:33 pm**

Plus i assume Fluid Byte is wanting to be paid for his software so your argument about 'large amounts of data on the server for free download' pointless.

I didn't write their TOS, its not my "argument". Even if you want to be "paid" for software, you usually provide a demo. Either way, One.com makes it VERY clear they are not intended for moderate-high volume users such as a indie software developer would be.

Thats seems very high.

That is VERY low, and based on a poor quality program. A decent program with favorable reviews could easily see 3x-5x that amount daily.

Hell, I have seen demos posted just in a programming community like here, bring a hit of 150GB of bandwidth in a single day.

One.com is an innovative supplier of web hosting services. One.com (B-one) was established in 2002 in Denmark and is today one of the leading companies in Europe

An innovator of hosting services who has only been in business since 2002? That pretty much speaks for itself, doesn't it?

Our backbone is fibre-based with redundant infrastructure. The total bandwidth is at present 2 x 1 Gigabit multi-homed attached and connected to 3 international carriers, Global Crossing, Deutsche Telecom and Level3, in addition to Danish Internet eXchange.

Not exactly impressive is it?

Why don't you actuall ring them up or email them and ask about usage before making ill informed statements?

Don't need to, their specs and TOS do the speaking for them and info you posted nails the coffin shut.

I only recommend services I have direct experience with. If one.com works for you, I am very happy for you. I have no experience with them and based on the info on their site, I would never consider giving them a try. I learned the hard way to stay away from services like this.

*edit*
Based on their info as of the 4th of September, they only have 59,531 hosted domains. Extremely small customer-base for a "large and credible" hosting service:
http://www.webhosting.info/webhosts/rep ... s/B-ONE.NU

Picking a web host is like picking a wife, it tends to be a very "personal" thing and what one person likes, another doesn't necessarily like.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:45 pm**

So what's Fluid Byte actually written then? that needs Gigs of transfer and needs a world class hoster at no cost?

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:06 am**

White Eagle wrote:
a professional solution like One.com
Probably because One.com is a gimmick host and just as worthless as the freebie hosts.

Since this is a programming forum, lets assume Fluid Byte wants to make a site to host games or apps he makes with PB.

From the One.Com TOS:

Subscribers are not permitted to store large amounts of data on the server for free download or reading without prior
agreement with One.com. The purpose is not to function as an external hard drive for the storage of data in formats such
as zip, mp3, jpg, etc.
That pretty much leaves out using the site to host any games or applications you make with PureBasic.

I read that as not being allowed to make a "download" site,
and that One.com want "real" sites.
i.e. frontpage, software section, news, forum, whatnot.
That clause seem to forbid what many have used yahoo and that other free homepage site starting at "a" something has been missused for over the years (warez download pages).

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:38 am**

Here is a quote from another site that extrapolates on how "gimmick" services use the "10 clause" or as One.Com just calls it "traffic".

Hidden CPU utilization limitations
Buried deep within DreamHost's terms and service are limits to how much CPU utilization you can use. Unfortunately there is no way for you to monitor this, you'll just have to take DreamHost's word that you're exceeding the limits. If you exceed the limits, they'll disable your account.

This was taken from:
http://www.dreamhost-sucks.com

It is best to avoid the "gimmick" & "mom and pop" services. There is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth.

Laughable claims like on the One.com site (innovators, but only in business since 2002 (and have already had to change business name once)), plus only having 59,000 hosted domains. These are red flags to anybody.

My original point though was to try and politely tell Fluid Byte that there is NO SUCH THING as unlimited bandwidth and that he should probably avoid the freebie web hosts. Like anything in life, you really do get what you pay for.

My current fave for paid hosting is lunarpages.com. I put many clients high volume clients there. Extremely reliable service. They have an excellent Better Business Bureau rating, and are members of the BBB. They also have an excellent rating with Dun & Bradstreet (a must for ANY legitimate business).

If you want FREE hosting, you should probably find a free host you like just to host the web pages and screenshots, etc and use one of the free file hosting services for storing your downloads. They get a bad name, but the free file hosting services CAN be used for legitimate downloads. Rapidshare in my experience has the most reliable service, the least unobtrusive ads and the most "family-friendly" ads.

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:23 am**

http://www.netfast.org/
http://www.php0h.com/

Posted: **Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:45 pm**

What on earth....

My ISP is back online! W000t!?!?

It was the 1st of september when they went down. There was also a message on the main page saying that they going to shut down business, obviously a hacker spoof.

Although I found a similar freehoster I wasn't pleased with they way the handled account- & site management and the homepage was slow.

Anyhow, thank you all for your effort!

@yoxola: www.netfast.org is a scam & www.php0h.com forces ad's on every site!

Posted: **Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:57 pm**

I'm just found it for you, not check them yet.
Because I'm not able to use it(no time or intension).

Actually my site have a standalone domain, 5GB disk space, 30MB/sec guaranteed bandwidth.

And my forum have around 16 thousands members.... that's the reason I don't use free hosters

Just take a shot in 1:00AM

16930 members, and 556 active,
my ad revenue is more than $50 a month,
so this site can live with itself on a high-cost server.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:45 am**

http://cgi.ebay.com/Simply-Web-Hosting- ... dZViewItem

I personally host 4 of my domains through the above company. $3 per year for a lot of space, bandwith(transfer) & features. This is an AWESOME deal,
but this price is only available via eBay.

Check out their site at http://www.graphikfactory.com

Posted: **Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:27 am**

I can give out a few 1GB spaces with 50GB/month bandwidth limit, and you can bind it to your domain.

This offer doesn't applies to those have already paid/free spaces , and you don't need to have to put any ad on your site, and you have full FTP/php/MySQL/.hatccess support.

I just bought a Dedicated Server with the money from ADs, the only limit is I'll limit per-file size to 10MB, however you can split it in WinRAR.

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