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Everyone talks about aliens to be far far aheadof us. Why shouldnt it be the opposite way? I see no reason why both couldnt be true...

I voted no because im not sure. I do belive there is a posibility of life out there, but also that there is a posibility of the opposite.

Good point.

From the same guys who did the probability thing on Advanced Civilisations being in the same time frame as us (or not), IIRC they said that, given there are aliens concurrent with us then we are probably ahead of them in this time frame.

But a few million years from now, we're a vanishing memory and some other crew are wondering if there is, will be or ever was life "out there".



So the next time you visit another planet, be careful not to tread on an alien ant. You could wipe out the most advanced civilisation the galaxy will ever see - before it had time to happen.

Dare2 wrote: So the next time you visit another planet, be careful not to tread on an alien ant. You could wipe out the most advanced civilisation the galaxy will ever see - before it had time to happen.

(True, though..)

Just wanted to show you this great documentary also:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3533&q=ufo

And here is the name of the spaceclub the aliens who contacted my father was in:

PB wrote:> People will use blindfaith to believe in god but yet they will not use the
> same blindfaith to believe or even concede the possibility of aliens.

And conversely, people who aren't willing to believe there's a God are
quite willing to believe in aliens, even though both haven't seen either.
Seems like both are engaging in blind faith to me!

We have proof of humans and we are in one part of the universe. Sooo... it is very reasonable and grounds of proof that aliens (as we are to those I believe surely are out betwixed the stars away from us) do exist. No proof of any of the 8000+ gods to date. The bible is held as proof of a god and that is just plain being silly and brain washed, as far as I am concerned.

I have lived and seen both sides of the god belief and agnostic (hey, just show me proof, not some "side effects" touted as proof, like rainbows, or the complex human body). Proof is proof and not a spoof.

I'm done now.

@joakim
interested video! i am still wondered that all such videos (even the newest) looks like extremly blured! While looking the online video i was very impressed by the transparent object stuff... the first thing i thought very cool but this cant be real. this must a any good video trick!

But as the guy in the video say "its real!" - i have looked this part three times and nocitce the name (logo) in the video and tried a seach at google... i had luck and here you can see how real the transparent effect really is...

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pr ... xv/oc.html

"the absence of evidences does not confirm the evidence of absence", because here supposedly intelligence exists and look the absence of intelligence to treat to our planet.
The official opinion is our planet is the only with intelligent life, and in spite of it we are destroying it. Is this a evidence of intelligent life ?
IMHO the aliens only observe our civilization to show us its lack of interes in contacting us

There sure are intelligence out there, but not close to us at all. If, and IF they are more advanced than us.. Then they could probably travel at light speed and reach us.. Eh, wait a minute.. we are dealing with near INFINITE space, Im sure they would find nicer places (more interesting) to travel at, than our little system.

Think about it, You've got the technology = you can simply scan the space, find what you were looking for and go for it. But again, they might not have this technology... There might even be civilizations similar to ours out there... But until I dont see it, I dont believe it.

About 90% of the videos I've seen in my life were all faked...
They might look cool the first time and you might get impressed by some of this vids.. Just study them and you'll find out its just and yet another trick from someone who had waaaay too much time on his hands.


But I think that its more plausible to see an alien at the back of your street than the USA flag on the moon.

There could be just one problem....

Extraterrestrial lifeforms mustn't have the same criterias like the terrestrial.
Maybe, they couldn't be able to perceive us, 'cause there are to many difference between aliens and us.

va!n wrote:@joakim
interested video! i am still wondered that all such videos (even the newest) looks like extremly blured! While looking the online video i was very impressed by the transparent object stuff... the first thing i thought very cool but this cant be real. this must a any good video trick!

But as the guy in the video say "its real!" - i have looked this part three times and nocitce the name (logo) in the video and tried a seach at google... i had luck and here you can see how real the transparent effect really is...

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pr ... xv/oc.html

I knew that the transparent was actually a trick with a projector and stuff, don't know why he showed us that, maybe to show how "far" we gone in that area...

And yeah the videos looks quite blurry, that's because they filmed what he showed us on his screen, and then it's encoded with a crappy codec and uploaded to the internet. I bet the originals have very good quality.

Hroudtwolf wrote:There could be just one problem....
Extraterrestrial lifeforms mustn't have the same criterias like the terrestrial.
Maybe, they couldn't be able to perceive us, 'cause there are to many difference between aliens and us.

But it's actually logical that life on another planet would have much of the same properties as we see in life on our planet.
We have eyes to see, legs to walk, and bla bla... they also need that.
And every lifeform on our planet looks quite the same actually, because it's the best form. So I guess, it would be like that on other planets too.
If the planet is very much like our earth.
But there could also be some crasy planets where beings had to be very different.

And there are not just one type of aliens visiting us either...
I know you guys must think i'm crasy or something, it might be logical for other to think that.
But when even my own father had contact with aliens, and I myself have seen two ghost and stuff, and there is so much evidence out there, why should I not belive?

And since you guys now might want to know what the hell the deal is with my father is, I'll give you a link to this thread where I talk a little about it:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread186828/pg1

about lifeforms.... i was very impressed when they showed on tv that they found new lifeforms on earch - in areas where a human or any other kind of life normaly coudnt exist! Its under water in the hot lava, there are still very little organic lifeforms! strange but very amazing, isnt it?

Most of the videos are fake.
And what makes me laugh most is how he said "nano technology" about the retro-proyection method ... Cracked me up..

(I do speak spanish 100% anyway, the first video of the pilots seems quite real.. But those in the video are 'foofighters' as we know them)

Why would you hide anyway your aircraft if you've got a big exaust flame coming out your propulsion system.. HELLO ... Its light it might be heat, then you can actually point a missle to heat, hell-o!

dagcrack wrote:Most of the videos are fake.

Most of them might be, but how do you know?

Mexicans are known for spending their time faking this kind of things..
On one of the videos I can see a reflection of a human face, overlayed on top of the actual "video" tell me why...! Perhaps they were pointing the camera to a reflective surface to accomplish the illusion of those foo fighters on the video (think Its around minute 26 - 28 of the video if I remember well).

Also, you can not by any means see heat from a normal picture those are just image filters they applied, but is no way heat .. telling you, I work on image manipulation all friggin' day!.

Many of the photographs he shown are fake as well, and pretty easy to fake. Even the one from CHILE is a fake, is no way an alien its just a dog.

Another thing: he keeps on repeating "it would be too expensive to make such a big puppet" Sure ? with about 800 bucks you can make a real human replica with all you need to make it look real. How much would you spend on an alien? well perhaps even less money, given they are skinnier. (lol).

Seriously The only thing that impresses me are some of the crop circles
I can only explain them, if it was faked.. to be an overlay on top of the video. That is possible, but... well, how can you prove me that they really existed? that they were there? You should have 100 photographs of you at it then!, show them. if not, its still easy to fake. You show a video, well you can fake a video.

But you show me 100 pictures of something and I might believe it. (even so, you can still fake 100 pictures, but on more than one you'll commit some mistake and thats where you get to know its all a setup)..

I liked the shaded crop circles... Way too much, but thats the only thing I liked of the video, everything else is really easy to fake. Most of all coming from some mexicans that do this for money (seriously, and got nothing about mexicans though... but some people over there makes this fakes for selling them).



There was this video of an ufo passing by some buildings some time ago, everyone thought it was real but if you analyze the video, its just an overlay...