DefType -> Define

[Fred]

Another point is with the 'Explicit' option, 'Define' will be much more used than before. Define then is more apprioriate name than DefType.

[Amiga5k]

Macros easily solve this dilemma, so I think we can move on from this, eh? (Now I can rename some REALLY long PB function names like I've always wanted:

ElapsedMilliseconds()

becomes

Millisecs() and

DisplayTranslucideSprite(#Sprite, x, y, Intensity)

becomes

ShowTSprite(#Sprite, x, y, Intensity)

)

..and so on

Macros are great!
Russell

[Seldon]

This thread made me think if there is some "standard" for basic dialects ? I don't mean for functions of course, but for commands... like for/next, while/wend, etc...

[Dare2]

Dartmouth, I think, is the name of the standard. But somebody will correct me if I am wrong.

However apart from some things like For/Next, very little in any Basic looks like tje pre-OOp, pre-Windows, pre-Noah original standard, methinks.

[Amiga5k]

That's true! If you look at a Commodore 64 Basic program trying to access a random access file or even just displaying an image, you'll see what a giant pain in the $%# it was. With all that potential (for the time period anyway), the built-in language sure left a lot to be desired when it came to accessing the VIC-II and SID. Granted, with a total of 64k to work with (and only "38911 BASIC BYTES FREE"), I suppose they had to cut something!

Anyway, BASIC has changed quite a bit since then...Thank goodness!

Russell

[chris319]

Then Asc() should be Ascii()
Eof() should be EndOfFile()
Len() should be Lenght()
Val, Chr, Lof, Cos, Int, Abs .....

Don't give them ideas.

[Psychophanta]

Then Asc() should be Ascii()
Eof() should be EndOfFile()
Len() should be Lenght()
Val, Chr, Lof, Cos, Int, Abs .....

Don't give them ideas.

[NoahPhense]

Then Asc() should be Ascii()
Eof() should be EndOfFile()
Len() should be Lenght()
Val, Chr, Lof, Cos, Int, Abs .....

Don't give them ideas.

lol ..

[Amiga5k]

The great thing about Macros is that you CAN have all of those things. You can change Len to Length and so on.

What I'm wondering, is: Are the various versions of PB going to have the same command set at some point? There are quite a few Windows-only commands right now (understandable) that would be quite appreciated on Linux and Mac I imagine.

This is one of the (very) few areas where I prefer BlitzMax <dodges flying tomato>: Everything coming from the official source is available on all platforms. Ease of creating new libraries (modules) is the other one, but I digress.

Anyway, I'm having fun with PB4b right now and looking forward to the full release!

Russell

[Psychophanta]

Macros don't allow to replace some commands names. That's the bad point.

[Trond]

Macros don't allow to replace some commands names. That's the bad point.

Like what?

[NoahPhense]

Code: Select all

Macro Apples
  messagerequester
EndMacro

Macro Oranges
  Apples
EndMacro

Oranges("That's Pretty", "Impressive!", #MB_ICONHAND)

[Amiga5k]

No offense, NoahPhense, but that example doesn't seem like too much of a handicap to me. Can you show us a real world example of where it would be advantageous to do such a thing?

Besides, if it is something that people would use, Fred or whoever could probably fix it fairly easily.

Russell

[NoahPhense]

No offense, NoahPhense, but that example doesn't seem like too much of a handicap to me. Can you show us a real world example of where it would be advantageous to do such a thing?

Besides, if it is something that people would use, Fred or whoever could probably fix it fairly easily.

Russell

No Offense taken..

I was just being silly. I really wasn't making an example. Just being
silly, I'm allowed to do that several times a day. Some days more than
others.. =)

Anyhow. Probably one of the reasons that Fred created Macros, is because
of the amount of people that were looking for command name changes.

I'm sure if any given command became a big agreement within the
forums it would be changed. In fact, it has been done several times
before. Where someone started a thread about changing something,
and everyone gave their opinions and views. That's what usually decides
changes.

But if someone wanted DefType back they can just use a macro to bring
back. Right?

- np

[Psychophanta]

Macros don't allow to replace some commands names. That's the bad point.

Like what?

Look at:
viewtopic.php?t=19173