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PB wrote:> i can breach terms and conditions to force an end

Just double-check that there are no financial penalties for breaching... there
weren't on my contracts, which is why I was able to get out of them that way.

@Trond: Okay.

Oh yea, im going to check, but i know i can try it.

When you think you know someone, you don't really know him/her AT ALL, trust me. If you want me to elaborate about this.. just ask.

Hydrate: Cancel any bills that arent priority like as said, internet. If you've got cable TV, cancell it. ETC. I know your mom can't do physical work, but I bet her mind is okey although shes depressed -trust me I know about depressed women- But anyway, what you first need to do is calm things down, talk to your mom, show her you're up to help her and your family to get out of this.

Thats what you first should do, hope you already done, else it's never too late trust me.

Right now Im on a big hangover but I can still think, lets see... trond, I didnt see the joke -I came late to the party/thread, I know- But instead of saying "oh poor boy" and such things like posting JOKES, you should of gave advice to Hydrate. No one will ever force you to post on any open threads that you find.. Okey, that makes you stupid at least you were on that moment, live with it, calm down.. if you dont want to help, don't you even dare to show up. thats my point of view, live with it.


Read well the contracts, I would of been punished if I broke any points of mine. So, be serious with this stuff.. Legal stuff. Oh, and ask for your mom or your dad first. I'd say your real dad, since he might be less depressed than your mom is right now -if I'm not wrong- So, perhaps you should call him and tell him you want/need to have a talk. Lifes not easy at some points of itself.

One thing is for sure, you shouldnt take it all on you, it's a very big bag to carry... But you can do it, since there aint "impossibles" in this life.. letting you know it's up to you, so don't give up. You might get depressed, Perhaps contemplate suicide (Everyone thought about this at some points of his life, however this helps you understand some other points of said life, one thing is for sure.. Don't you dare).

Not to scary you or anything but take care of your mom, and if shes taking any pills.. you should check (and double check) that she aint getting more than she needs, because that will bring up problems. Also, take out of reach any other pills. However if one is smart and determined to end with his life, theres always a way to do it.. therefore just dont let that happen, and this doesnt mean to show up at the right moment... this means to PREVENT, that is, calm things down so it never goes to the wrong side.

I cant tell you more, perhaps if I lived in the UK we could of had a talk face to face, but that wont be possible, at least now.

Just don't give up, PB is right. About the friends; if they are not old enough, you might not find support from them. In fact, the day you'll need something, you'll see how many real friends you've got, if any. And this is normal, as everything else. You sure shouldnt be taking all this pressure at your age so talk to your dad he might understand you if the right words are said, you're lucky for having both mom and dad alive, value that, please.


I wont wish you luck, luck is for those who cant have the first step with out being pushed. What I wish is that all the crap goes away as soon as possible and life can return to normal, but, for this, actions must be taken.

Talk to your dad about your step-dad, tell to your dad the situation (if he doesnt already know it, since I don't know that) If he understands you, he will do everything until the court makes your step-dad figure out how wrong he was born and teach him to think twice before taking any actions, since for every action theres a reaction, therefore you can't go out there -world- doing anything your balls sings.

Thats it, its all about being mature and doing the right things, sometimes its hard to do that since you might not know which are the right and which are the wrong, this is something you will learn as time goes by, but still, everyone commits mistakes... and that makes you human, of course.

Big, small, tiny, incredible big, "so wrong" mistakes... some can be forgiven, some others can't and wont ever be.




Things that I don't want for this first day of 2006 includes having Trond saying that he wont live with it that he aint stupid and that he WANTED TO HELP.

Hi,I hope my email may be of some help.
Please go with your mother as stated,taking any documents you have regarding your finances and landlord details,also cancel all contracts you can,and those you cant,or are indebted to,write explaining your situation and make an offer to pay a small regular payment,once you have some financial stability.

Good luck.

What a way to start off the new year. I feel for you Hydrate.

My advice is listen to netmaestro, PB, and GedB since they are all from commonwealth countries. You have far more social rights in the UK than here in the US, and your social safety net is big. My guess is eviction would be very hard for the landlord especially if you can prove no income and have applied for aid.

I don't want to sound preachy, but, personal pride will only hurt things here and not help your mother or step-sister. Don't be afraid to ask for help. There are many charities/churches/organizations that are set-up to help people in your situation and may even be an advocate between you and the landlord/creditors. They may even help get the car running again, or other means of transport.

Start checking out local food banks (if they have that in the UK). My guess is also that the utilities can't be shut off either or it would be difficult if you can prove hardship.

If you want to help your mother and step-sister, then get a job. Do school at night or start up again in a couple of years when things stablize. Many great and rich and powerful men have been in your situation as teenagers and had to postpone their own plans for a while to provide for their families.

Things will not always be this way, trust me. I'm 42, and came from a similiar situation, except my dad died when I was 8 and on his deathbed told me and my brother (who was 9) to look after my mother which we have to this day. He left us with many debts and when we were old enough to work (12 with paper routes) we contributed to the household income. We were very poor for several years but we survived.

As Xombie said, the most important education is what you give yourself. The best thing college taught me was how to do research. And don't forget, Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard. Not that I am advocating that, but you get the point. Education is important and will open doors for you.

If you do get a job (which I hope you do), you may want to consider moving in with your real father, so that your income doesn't count against the "household income" of your mother and thus, lowering the amount of aid from the state (if that matters in the UK, I don't know). You can still mail her money.

Situations like this sometimes bring the important things into focus. Just don't fail to learn the lesson here that life has dealt you (and there will be many more to come so be a good student!).

Make sure you get some help chasing your step-father for child support. Do not let him slide out of this! He is the reason for the hardship. Make him help ease the burden!

And tell your mom to start dating real men.

Hydrate wrote: And programmers are likely the best help, they are problem solvers

Im a problem maker hehe

Nah i dont know anything about this. But at least i can say, that if i were you i would move to your dad. Work and send money to your mom. The thing is then she does not have to pay for let you staying, then you can work less and go to school and send money to your mom. Its not an advice, its just what i would do if i were in the same situation.
And of course visit your mom and stepsister as often as you can.

Again not an advice, just what i would do.

Straker wrote:What a way to start off the new year. I feel for you Hydrate.

My advice is listen to netmaestro, PB, and GedB since they are all from commonwealth countries. You have far more social rights in the UK than here in the US, and your social safety net is big. My guess is eviction would be very hard for the landlord especially if you can prove no income and have applied for aid.

I don't want to sound preachy, but, personal pride will only hurt things here and not help your mother or step-sister. Don't be afraid to ask for help. There are many charities/churches/organizations that are set-up to help people in your situation and may even be an advocate between you and the landlord/creditors. They may even help get the car running again, or other means of transport.

Start checking out local food banks (if they have that in the UK). My guess is also that the utilities can't be shut off either or it would be difficult if you can prove hardship.

If you want to help your mother and step-sister, then get a job. Do school at night or start up again in a couple of years when things stablize. Many great and rich and powerful men have been in your situation as teenagers and had to postpone their own plans for a while to provide for their families.

Things will not always be this way, trust me. I'm 42, and came from a similiar situation, except my dad died when I was 8 and on his deathbed told me and my brother (who was 9) to look after my mother which we have to this day. He left us with many debts and when we were old enough to work (12 with paper routes) we contributed to the household income. We were very poor for several years but we survived.

As Xombie said, the most important education is what you give yourself. The best thing college taught me was how to do research. And don't forget, Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard. Not that I am advocating that, but you get the point. Education is important and will open doors for you.

If you do get a job (which I hope you do), you may want to consider moving in with your real father, so that your income doesn't count against the "household income" of your mother and thus, lowering the amount of aid from the state (if that matters in the UK, I don't know). You can still mail her money.

Situations like this sometimes bring the important things into focus. Just don't fail to learn the lesson here that life has dealt you (and there will be many more to come so be a good student!).

Make sure you get some help chasing your step-father for child support. Do not let him slide out of this! He is the reason for the hardship. Make him help ease the burden!

And tell your mom to start dating real men.

I would move into my dads, i can do it any day, but the point is i cant leave my mother on her own, we have no friends here, our family is useless and its going to be very lonely for her all day every day on her own, and that with her being depressed dont help.

Yes the advice people have given me is helpful, i will try to fllow it.

Hydrate,

Don't forget the Citizen's Advice, I've had to use them myself several times and they are a great help. Try to get your mum to go along with you, get her involved with sorting everything out.

Hydrate,

You can work and still get a degree from the Open University.

http://www.open.ac.uk/