Other basics

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:09 pm

IIRC the guy behind RealBasic left the company and started a new "BASIC" (correct me if I am wrong)

srod · Post by **srod** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:18 pm

Media basic I think?

A lot of people would obviously find the 'RAD' aspect of Realbasic attractive, but I think Purebasic is now far more effective in creating solid applications and to be honest, I consider this a RAD language because of the simplicity of the syntax and ease with which even a beginner can learn the basics.

I've been using this language for 2 years now, and although I did wonder for a time where PB was going, things are now beginning to really pick up pace. There is a real buzz around this language and the more I use it, the more I realise that there really is no limit. Yes, there are things which are missing and certain tasks do require a little more effort than might be the case with some more convoluted languages, but with this community, help and assistance are but a few taps of the keyboard away.

People here want to learn and are more than happy to give. It's the Purebasic way!

It's what makes PB so satisfying.

Post by **Kiffi** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:40 pm

> Media basic I think?

no, it's ExtremeBasic: http://www.extremebasic.com/

Greetings ... Kiffi

dagcrack · Post by **dagcrack** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:59 pm

I'd call it ExtremeAnorexic (I don't like it at all)

venom · Post by **venom** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:20 pm

I've got RealBasic 5.5, I find it annoying there is no true main source code, its too oriented towards dragging and clicking. Like the actual basic is an add-on.

jb · Post by jb » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:24 pm

venom wrote:I've got RealBasic 5.5, I find it annoying there is no true main source code, its too oriented towards dragging and clicking. Like the actual basic is an add-on.

A while back my company explored alternative development platforms for desktop applications when it was announced that support for Visual Basic was ending. This was the same reaction that we had when using the RealBasic product.

the.weavster · Post by **the.weavster** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:48 pm

venom wrote:I've got RealBasic 5.5

5.5 did have a clunky IDE but 2005 is very cool.

venom wrote:I find it annoying there is no true main source code, its too oriented towards dragging and clicking. Like the actual basic is an add-on.

Is that such a bad thing?

It does make the code for a particular event or window very easy to find. You can also add methods and properties (and notes) to a window so you can keep it all nicely self contained.

I actually find this easier in a large app than scrolling back and forth through source code looking for a particular procedure or item in the event loop.

utopiomania · Post by **utopiomania** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:49 pm

there is no true main source code, its too oriented towards dragging and clicking.

Same here, no fun at all.

venom · Post by **venom** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:29 am

the.weavster wrote:Is that such a bad thing?

To create a function or class I'd rather type it out verus clicking a bunch buttons.

the.weavster · Post by **the.weavster** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:19 pm

You can read the source code simply by clicking print from the file menu.

If your creating a function you can just add a module to your project and add methods to it by typing them out.

The same is true if you're creating a class. Add a class, add it's properties and methods type out what you want them to do.

I'm sorry if I'm beginning to sound like a salesman for REALbasic but I just like it...

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:22 pm

... a little red dot slowly moves and settles on your chest...
...you swallow hard...

'of course you like purebasic better,' a horse voice whispers, 'and you're gonna' state so in public'...

your tongue feels like leather and your mouth is dry, you know you have no choice but to admit the truth, you do like purebasic better

you swallow again, the words are barely audible as you whisper...

dagcrack · Post by **dagcrack** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:24 pm

venom wrote:
the.weavster wrote:Is that such a bad thing?
To create a function or class I'd rather type it out verus clicking a bunch buttons.

Afaik pointing and clicking is not programming.
What happen to those days where mouses didnt exist..?!..
Jeez I see people using mouses so much, when everything could be done with the keyboard

venom · Post by **venom** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:06 pm

Well you do type out the names, arguments and stuff. But to me it seems to get in the way having to click add class whenever you want to add a class, or add method whenever you want to add a method/function.

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:45 pm

Is that such a bad thing?

Yes, it is a VERY bad thing. This is just as bad as the click & crap game creators like MMF, GameMaker, 3D Game Studio and 3D RAD. Games made in these products stand out like a sore thumb. In the end, you have somebody releasing a game and taking pride in it, when in reality it took no effort or skill to turn the game out. Point & Click app development is no different.

the.weavster · Post by **the.weavster** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:51 pm

Brice Manuel wrote:in reality it took no effort or skill to turn the game out.

The skill is devising a game people want to play, nobody gives a monkeys chuff how hard it was for the developer to program it.
Same with an app, the user just wants it to do its job with a minimum of fuss.

blueznl wrote:you have no choice but to admit the truth, you do like purebasic better

Can't I love both equally and at the same time?
(this is a line I've used often but rarely with success)