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Re: Loving Purebasic

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:20 pm
by oldBear
mlwhitt wrote: Recently I have played with Liberty Basic, iBasic and PureBasic. I love the simplicity behind PureBasic. I don't like all the extra work that I would run into with Liberty and iBasic making API calls.
I'm about 2 weeks behind you and have basically been following the same path. Liberty Basic first, followed by ibasic and purebasic (with a little bit of realbasic).

I too loved the documentation and forums at ibasic but found it easier to accomplish tasks with purebasic (despite the documentation :wink: )

The pending sale of pyxia also caused some concern, altho it appears they may end up OK.

So far, I love the tool and feel that the forums will probably adequately augment the documentation to allow me to become more productive. Seems like an excellent group.

I can say, I'd much rather be here than anywhere near any variant of vb. :)

cheers
oldBear

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:35 pm
by mlwhitt
I agree one hundred percent oldBear. I must say for all of those that come across this thread while searching for a new Basic compiler, that they can stop their search right now and go for PureBasic. I believe you like I, spent a great deal of time researching the tools out there and found the best in PureBasic. For the money there is just NO WAY to beat it. The more I learn about PureBasic the more I fall in love with it and get upset with the fact that I hadn't heard of it sooner or tried it eariler on.

As a matter of fact I litterally threw out my VB.NET 2003 PRO CDs a few days ago because I know that I will NEVER touch them again now that I have PureBasic.

Don't mean to sound like a commerical but it is true, PureBasic really was the tool that helped me decide to stay in application development. Had I not found it I was going to stop programming all together.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:25 pm
by SimpleMind
mlwhitt wrote:...I ran into this when I was trying to search for some information about some of the Gadget commands. After spending a good amount of time I finally found what I was looking for. I had been searching for the wrong thing.

Jim
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Refering to your quote: The point is what were the words you are looking for? I do have the same problem. I can't find the right information most of the time because I don't know the 'specific' words. e.g. Widget versus Gadget. It has to do with the context someone is comming from.

It would be nice if there is a common "dictionary" between the programming languages on this world.

Re: Loving Purebasic

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:29 pm
by SimpleMind
oldBear wrote:...I too loved the documentation and forums at ibasic but found it easier to accomplish tasks with purebasic (despite the documentation :wink: )
But what was you missing if you say "(despite the documentation :wink: )"

If you can pinpoint what is missing in the PureBasic documentaion somenone can act on it....

Re: Loving Purebasic

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:47 pm
by Dare2
SimpleMind wrote:If you can pinpoint what is missing in the PureBasic documentaion somenone can act on it....
Mine was missing the $100 note. Should I send you my paypal account ..?


:)

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:17 am
by Intrigued
I agree with one of the previous posters.... except I not only through out my VB software.... all of my VB/C++ books went TODAY, as well!

PB to me, makes programming fun again!

FYI, I threw out about 10 VB books and a couple C++ books!

And who the heck can beat free life-time upgrades? M.S.? LMAO!

:wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:03 am
by mlwhitt
I completely agree that a common dictionary between languages would be great.
SimpleMind wrote: It would be nice if there is a common "dictionary" between the programming languages on this world.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:06 am
by mlwhitt
Same here, I got rid of a few hundred dollars worth of VB books. I can't believe the small fortune I spent on such a bloated language as VB.NET. I hated it with a passion. Just when I thought I was going to have to give up programming because I wasn't enjoying it anymore I found PureBasic and fell in love again myself!!
Intrigued wrote:I agree with one of the previous posters.... except I not only through out my VB software.... all of my VB/C++ books went TODAY, as well!

PB to me, makes programming fun again!

FYI, I threw out about 10 VB books and a couple C++ books!

Yeah, yet another reason why PureBasic rocks!!!
Intrigued wrote: And who the heck can beat free life-time upgrades? M.S.? LMAO!

:wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:44 pm
by fsw
mlwhitt wrote: Yeah, yet another reason why PureBasic rocks!!!
Intrigued wrote: And who the heck can beat free life-time upgrades? M.S.? LMAO!

:wink:
PureBasic is not the only one...
Ever heard of HotBasic :?:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:13 pm
by mlwhitt
I have looked at it, but it didn't seem to be anywhere near some complete and professional as PureBasic.
fsw wrote: PureBasic is not the only one...
Ever heard of HotBasic :?:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:43 pm
by fsw
mlwhitt wrote:I have looked at it, but it didn't seem to be anywhere near some complete and professional as PureBasic.
fsw wrote:
PureBasic is not the only one...
Ever heard of HotBasic :?:
It can't.
Work on PureBasic started around 6 years ago (or even longer).
Work on HotBasic started May 2003.

Also, it all depends on your needs.

If you look at the oop side of a language then HB is miles ahead.
Fri Jun 27, 2003 00:26; Fred wrote: I said I will implement structure to access DX and COM object easily but not class, and all OO behavior.
That's a BASIC language.
If you look at the GUI event handling then PB is stoneage compared to HB, and there is no change in sight (not even for V4) as can be seen here:
viewtopic.php?t=15470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

PB has his strenght on other things and as you can see different goals.

That's why it's important to use the right tool for the job.

Have fun coding :wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:38 pm
by mlwhitt
I will have to look into it further and see it might be used to compliment PB. Not a big OOP fan here so not sure how much I would use HB's strong point. But at anyrate thanks for pointing that out.
fsw wrote:It can't.
Work on PureBasic started around 6 years ago (or even longer).
Work on HotBasic started May 2003.

Also, it all depends on your needs.

If you look at the oop side of a language then HB is miles ahead.
Fri Jun 27, 2003 00:26; Fred wrote: I said I will implement structure to access DX and COM object easily but not class, and all OO behavior.
That's a BASIC language.
If you look at the GUI event handling then PB is stoneage compared to HB, and there is no change in sight (not even for V4) as can be seen here:
viewtopic.php?t=15470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

PB has his strenght on other things and as you can see different goals.

That's why it's important to use the right tool for the job.

Have fun coding :wink:

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:15 am
by Bizzy
I have had iBasic for a couple years and it is a good language. You dont have to use API in it to do good programs. The API just lets you dig deeper for more options.
SETCONTROLCOLOR mydlg, 7, RGB(255,255,255), RGB(0,0,0) Is all you need to do to set a Control (Gadget) foreground and background color.

Can you do that in PureBasic.

I have also been looking hard at HotBasic.

MyBtn.color = rgb(100, 49, &h25) is all that is needed to put color into Gadgets ( foreground Background).

Color use is a big thing for my software as it helps emphasise my dialogs for the user to see a more clear picture of the Dialog contents.

Hot Basic is also going Linux and has no problems with color.

Though I must agree with you all Pure Basic certainly has the source code and simplicity to learn.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:30 am
by Num3

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:33 am
by gnozal
Bizzy wrote:SETCONTROLCOLOR mydlg, 7, RGB(255,255,255), RGB(0,0,0) Is all you need to do to set a Control (Gadget) foreground and background color.
Can you do that in PureBasic ?
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