Pyxia sells.. but who's buying??

aaron · Post by **aaron** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:00 am

Its like a soap opera over there:

http://www.pyxia.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=9940

mlwhitt · Post by **mlwhitt** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:45 am

I had been going back and forth between purchasing iBasic and Purebasic back a couple weeks ago. I finally decided that PureBasic would be the way to go. I think both PB and iB have very active communities, but I was a little worried about iB being around in the future based on some of the comments on it's message board. Of course I also like that PB wraps a lot of it's commands into one command. I hated Liberty Basic back when I used to use it because Carl doesn't like having a lot of commands. Anyway back to iBasic, I think Paul is a nice enough fellow, but I don't know if the iBasic support forums are the best place to put your financial woes if you are trying to get more poeple to start developing with it.

I almost went ahead and got iB Pro just to help them out. I do like the fact that with PureBasic once you register you get all future releases. I do feel bad for Paul, and I think his iBasic products are one of the better Basic based compilers out there. Hopefully he will not lose his house. By the way I registered PB back last week and though I haven't written any code yet, I like what I see in the community.

By the way, looks like people from iB watch the PB forums too as I think this thread has now been mentioned over there.

mlwhitt · Post by **mlwhitt** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:10 am

Well looks like Paul has listed his company up for sale on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

Kinda sucks after I and a bunch of others just bought copies from him off ebay to help support him staying in business and all.

Wonder if he is going to continue providing any support for the product now?

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:15 pm

I donno. Unfortunately the author of iBasic wasnt thinking when he posted the Ebay item. He SHOULD of placed the amount he is willing to part with it for, or at least a payout amount. Not showing the "reserve" is the slimy way out, imo.

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:31 pm

The bids are now in 2.500 UD 4 days before finish (very low i think).

The comment about the site are a little 'tricky' because the seller said:

"Site details
The pyxia.com domain receives over 1 million hits monthly as shown by this chart produced by AwStats."

But the site receives 14 k visitors only in may 2005

Dont look much honest this part of the description...

aaron · Post by **aaron** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:51 pm

I'm guessing that his reserve is somewhere in the 20k+ range. Given that the current owner of Pixia is basically on the verge of living in a homeless shelter (from one of his own posts) and can't make enough money to support himself or his family, I'd be suprised if anyone steps up to take over the business.

He has definitely exploited his users in more recent times in my opinion. Its an ugly state of affairs. If he had handled it a little differently perhaps, he might be in a better position to sell it. As it stands though, it doesn't look so good for users of ibasic. All I can say is "Come on over, the water is fine on this side of pool."

Live long and strong Purebasic!

theNerd · Post by **theNerd** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:25 pm

Paul's forum members have pulled for him many times in the past. It looks like this is the last time they'll ever have to and it's a time where he really needs it the most. I am very concerned about him and his family. I wish them the best. If the EBay bids reach $5,000 I think he should take it. He needs the money more than anything. I think it would be unwise to turn it down if it didn't meet his reserve. Right now he needs a home for his family more than the business. With his programming abilities I believe he should be able to get a good paying job working only 40 hours a week (unlike the 80 hours a week he's been doing the past several years.) I believe this all could be a blessing in disguise for him.

mlwhitt · Post by **mlwhitt** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:06 am

I agree he should take what he can get if he is in as bad of shape as what he says. $5,000 would at least give them money to live off of. The more I think of the fact that he did the ebay thing begging for support and I fell for it urks me. He should have just been honest with everyone that he was going to sell it. Matter fact previously when it came up he said that he wouldn't.

But that being said, if his family needs the money as bad as he says, he should be willing to take whatever.

I guess I should be a little more "worried for him", but I have been in similar situations before and I didn't use tricking a group of people that were loyal to me to just some fast cash.

Sorry I know it's only $50 but still it was $50 bucks that I wouldn't have spent if he had been honest with where he was going.

It's all a mute point though as I have my PureBasic and it's perfect for me. That's what I get for helping out a lesser Basic, ha ha.

GedB · Post by **GedB** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:16 am

You don't know what Pauls intentions were.

If he said he didn't want to sell, then he didn't want to sell. I'm sure if it was up to him he would have pulled it through.

The man has a family, and in the end they have to take priority. He had to face the facts.

I'm betting that Paul has put a lot more money than anybody into IBasic, and the sale won't claw back anything but a tiny fraction of it.

Stop giving the guy such a hard time. He did everything he could, but it just wasn't going to work.

Perhaps now somebody with less responsibilities and more resources will be able to buy IBasic and see it through.

theNerd · Post by **theNerd** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:59 pm

GedB, I agree with you. I don't think Paul was trying to deceive and I think him losing his business is a very painful experience. Under normal circumstances I obviously would expect him to hold out as long as he could to get the true value of his business. Unfortunately, his position is very different because of the need to house his family so it's forcing him into a position where he has to under sell it.

I also have to say, I don't think I wasted the $50 on the Gold CD. I have no regrets about purchasing it. My only regrets are that I may not get the chance to learn the language as I had originally planned. I've owned PureBasic much longer than I've owned IBasic, so I will just happily continue focusing on using that as my primary language. I was hoping to use both (nothing wrong with being multi-lingual

) but I don't think that'll be happening. BTW, I didn't buy IBasic because I was dissatisfied with PureBasic, I primarily purchased it to help Paul.

dell_jockey · Post by **dell_jockey** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:21 pm

if that P/L information is correct, it's a steal.... Could be financed by letting Google AdSense loose on the Pixya website....

mlwhitt · Post by **mlwhitt** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:10 pm

Sorry, you are right theNerd. It wasn't a waste for $50. I was just in a bitchy mood yesterday. I did purchase it to help him out, and I guess I should have known with him in that situation that there would be a chance for this. And since I don't have any intention of writing it anything but PureBasic for the forseeable future, my rants are kinda of lame. I appologize for them. Paul does seem like a nice family man, and I do feel sorry for him.

That being said, "THANK GOD FOR PUREBASIC!!!"

utopiomania · Post by **utopiomania** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:57 pm

and I think him losing his business is a very painful experience.

No, that was his intentions, he states he want to pursue other interests in life in his sales pitch, and
did so on posts on his forums too..

That said, couldn't the moderators here archive(hide) these two (=about Pyxia) threads a few days to help him.
( viewtopic.php?t=15731) and this one.

Dare2 expressed what I feel about him and what he do, but heyy.. ?? At least until the bidding is over ??

GedB · Post by **GedB** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:53 pm

utopiomania,

As you say, sales pitch.

mlwhitt · Post by **mlwhitt** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:58 pm

How does archiving posting on a different website help him?

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