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First, before you make judgements like some of these, have you gotten out of the green and happy tutorial part of the game? Once you do then see what complaints you have. I left the tutorial around level 4 or 5.

Point 1: True

Point 2: Are you crazy? Theres more quests and sidestories than I can handle...

Point 3: What do you mean?

Point 4: Sort of true. But then its not the main game either. Its just a quick PvP section...

Point 5: There areas are very large. Takes quite a long walk to get from one area to another and theres no loads in between. (Maybe you have older hardware?)

Point 6: There are real cities. Not sure why you'd want a "store" as a trader is much more realistic for the setting. It's not like you have a Walmart in the days of swords and castles...

Point 7: Yea they are pretty static unless you're on a mission. But I have had some encounters with npcs who I stumble upon in the wilderness who are arguing or in the middle of a battle, etc. For example a prince and a king were arguing over some stuff and the king threatened to banish the prince. (And theres more that happens later but I won't spoil it now)


You are right that it's not a "real" MMORPG. For one thing the combat won't put you to sleep .

The best way to describe this game I think is a cross between WoW and Diablo 2.

Good mix and well worth the money, especially if you can't afford the $180/yr that WoW costs in subscriptions alone.

dracflamloc wrote:First, before you make judgements like some of these, have you gotten out of the green and happy tutorial part of the game? Once you do then see what complaints you have. I left the tutorial around level 4 or 5.

Point 1: True

Point 2: Are you crazy? Theres more quests and sidestories than I can handle...

Point 3: What do you mean?

Point 4: Sort of true. But then its not the main game either. Its just a quick PvP section...

Point 5: There areas are very large. Takes quite a long walk to get from one area to another and theres no loads in between. (Maybe you have older hardware?)

Point 6: There are real cities. Not sure why you'd want a "store" as a trader is much more realistic for the setting. It's not like you have a Walmart in the days of swords and castles...

Point 7: Yea they are pretty static unless you're on a mission. But I have had some encounters with npcs who I stumble upon in the wilderness who are arguing or in the middle of a battle, etc. For example a prince and a king were arguing over some stuff and the king threatened to banish the prince. (And theres more that happens later but I won't spoil it now)


You are right that it's not a "real" MMORPG. For one thing the combat won't put you to sleep .

The best way to describe this game I think is a cross between WoW and Diablo 2.

Good mix and well worth the money, especially if you can't afford the $180/yr that WoW costs in subscriptions alone.

Well, first of all - I don't say it's a bad game... It's very good, but you can't compare it to WoW. It's as you say "cross between WoW and Diablo 2 (and Dungeon Siege I think).

Point 2, You maybe right... I've only spent about 10 hours in the game - and yes, I'm out of the tutorial part. But what I mean is more technical... You can't walk everywhere in the game as in EQ2 or WoW. You see one location and want to go there - but you can't... You have to follow a road or something, it's very frustrating when you come from WoW or EQ2.

Point 3, I mean - you can't learn a craftskill (mining, skinning and so)? Or?

Point 5, Not if you compare with WoW (as you shouldn't). In WoW you can walk around for hours without one single stop.

Point 6, You maybe right?!? but the trading and merchant system seems simpler then in WoW and EQ2.

Point 7, Ok... I'll maybe miss the "voiceovers"?!?!

My big mistake was to compare GW directly with WoW and I was disapointed - now I think it is rather fun to play, when you know what to expect and what the game is about.

and you are right... the monthly fee will kill at least one of EQ2 or WoW (maybe both in the long run). The last time I played EQ2 (about a week ago) it wasn't many people online and in WoW very many players are at level 44 - 60, Blizzard have to do something to keep it alive. Many people are waiting for STO that I'll think will be released in 2006.



Hehe... it's rather funny in WoW - the "rare items" aren't so rare any longer (because of all high lvl players) and you almost earn more money to craft some low level stuff.

another thing...

I'm in the Dungeon Siege beta program and we will get a beta any day now!! Think if GAS Powered Games did a real MMORPG of it...

Cool be sure to post some impressions if you arent under a NDA

dracflamloc wrote:Cool be sure to post some impressions if you arent under a NDA

Sure! I'm a huge RPG fan (I'm still amazed of Baldur's Gate to GBA... The first GBA Game that had a real PC feeling over it...) but lately I'll began to play more and more MMORPG...

I don't think there will be a NDA, so I'll keep you posted...

They made Baldur's Gate for GBA?!?!

I need to try that out!

dracflamloc wrote:They made Baldur's Gate for GBA?!?!

I need to try that out!

Have you missed THAT!!!

The best game on GBA, ever!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/gba/rpg/baldurs ... ldurs+Gate

It's SO GOOD that you forget that you play on a GBA...

http://www.gamespot.com/gba/rpg/baldurs ... index.html

Hope they make one version of Baldurs Gate II for Nintendo DS... Perfect when you travel...

i'm trying to move away from these games to not-so-violent ones like Civilization and Impression's city building games. I hate playing those games like Diablo II and Warcraft in my dreams.

I play both World of Warcraft (very impressed) and GuildWars (not so impressed.. yet)..
If you want to reach me on WoW, I'm "Kildor" on the Deathwing server (IIRC), a lvl 31 alliance warlock... on GW I'm Sir Kildor.. :p

well, IAM very impressed with guildwars, it's simple, fast loading, affordable, and although the rpg elements are weak the story itself is still fun

but most of all the landscape is simply impressive, and i'm a tourist at heart after all those years

look for samantha bluezkin wa/ne in the game...

(i'd love to try wow but it's simply too expensive for my taste)

LarsG wrote:I play both World of Warcraft (very impressed) and GuildWars (not so impressed.. yet)..
If you want to reach me on WoW, I'm "Kildor" on the Deathwing server (IIRC), a lvl 31 alliance warlock... on GW I'm Sir Kildor.. :p

*LOL* I'm also on Deathwing (all of my 7 chars) and I think we have meet...

I like the PvP section of GW more and more... It's very fun!!

I'm very disappointed of Dungeon Siege 2, though...

Really? What's Dungeon Seige like?

had a look at it for the better part of a morning, and well it costs far far to much for me to buy, and from screen shots it doesn't look 'that' appealing to me really, don't get me wrong it's pretty and all but there is just something lacking that I can't put me finger on, in new zealand the game costs $120nzd at the highest I've seen it, the lowest price is about $90 thought mail order, the invantory system looks a little weak if you ask me, and the charactors well, I've seen better.

dracflamloc wrote:Really? What's Dungeon Seige like?

I've only played for about 1 hour, but I think it looks a lot like the old one. Have to give it another go before I can give a good answer - but the first look was disappointment.

what makes guild wars interesting is the business model

if they manage to sell expansion packs, they can create a continuous income

the trick is: their internet costs are minimal, as the actual gaming does not take place on their servers, only running around in the shared areas does take some bandwith (more like a chat with an additional locational parameter)

it's going to be interesting to see where it will go and if it will survice, it's fun nonetheless...