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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:40 pm
by fweil
But never pay ment good !

Giving a hand to somedy neither mean salary nor reward.

Nothing to do in Annoucements !

Maybe in Off but never in Annoucements ...

Re: Office Style Menus, Toolbars Coolbars and XP style/skinn

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:20 am
by Dare2
To answer the question, I prefer DLL if only one choice, would much prefer both DLL and Lib.

To address the debate, I see no prob with the post. It was a simple question - is it worth doing? Hardly an emotive issue. :P
gmatthews wrote:BTW: yes I said C libraries not assembler, and no, I'm neither going to rewrite or otherwise hand optimise to assembler, so don't bother me with this. Programming the Windows SDK in C & C++ has served me well over the years.
This may be construed as a bit heavy, but so what?

And read this:
gmatthews wrote:I am a commercial developer, so don't expect the FULL versions for free although I would produce a community version of the libraries.
So, do we now lose a community product and, if we so choose, the commercial option, because we reacted emotionally to the post and question?

Do we reject something because it has a price tag? Did we reject PB? Do we expect source code to PB? If we use Paul's designer, did we get it free, with source?

Anyhow, /RANT.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:22 am
by thefool
i agree as fweil said, that this should be in the offtopic section.

The post gmatthews came with was hard in language, but i cant say if all other developers than fred are that :)
Do we reject something because it has a price tag? Did we reject PB? Do we expect source code to PB? If we use Paul's designer, did we get it free, with source?
We dont expect source code to PB and source to Pauls designer, but i guess we expect a decent language from them, and they have shown that they are nice persons. both paul and the pb team. But still, gmatthews, show us what you've got.

btw, the "Office Style menus (Icons, shaded background, shadows) " is that for 98 too or just 2000/XP?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:21 am
by Num3
Karbon wrote:If you are a hobby programmer that might be true NP, but personally I don't bank on freeware that much. Typically, and note I did say TYPICALLY, commercial software (including utilities and libraries) are of better quality than freeware ones. When writing commercial software it is best to buy something and get a promise of support rather than use a freebie that might disappear in a month or two.
True for PC...

God i miss AMIGA .... :cry:

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:13 am
by wcardoso
Hey gmatthews !. I´d saw some days ago one post from you with laments because you´d paid $1.500 for a M$ compiler to discover you prefer PureBasic.
Well, do you hope we pay for your bad business ?.
Please, think like Fred does !
Thanks
:twisted:

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:35 am
by Shannara
PB libraries, DLL is sorta counter PB for me.

Are you going to post again? :D Post some screenies..

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:58 am
by Kale
Office Style menus (Icons, shaded background, shadows)
Proper, fully implemented Toolbars, Office style and standard.
Proper, fully implemented Coolbars, Office style and standard.
Owner Draw buttons, including regions (98 and a seperate 2000/XP version)
XP style controls (some with skinnable features) for ALL windows platforms (98/2000 and yes XP).
Sounds very good! I would probably buy (at the right price of course :) ). I would also prefer these in PB Lib format purely because i like to have one exe fully compiled and not dependant on DLLs.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:53 am
by blueznl
it *really* must be the weather, why is everyone flaming everybody else? people, cool down! if you need to let of some steam, load up your amiga emulator, boot swiv or xenon megablast and have a go at it, if you need a human victim, target me... but go easy on eachother!

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:59 am
by blueznl
anyway...

regarding the subject: number of users? sign an nda and ask fred

regarding your lib: sounds interesting, show me your lib ie. results, i prefer both (dll as well as lib due to future compatibility) and if it's cheap enough i perhaps buy it (although i rarely rely on external code, i think the only three dll's i thus far used where winsock.dll, user32.dll and wintab.dll :-))

if you expect to make *a* *lot* of money, hmm, i doubt that the average purebasic user will bring out the hard cash for a few buttons :-) what price did you have in mind?