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				Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:20 pm
				by NoahPhense
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:05 am
				by embrance
				The BEST optionis Blitz3D...
I know it,i ahve used DarkBasic,DarkBasic Pro and many others...With Blitz3D you can make a game without even reading ever an example!The command reference is so great! 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:30 am
				by thefool
				but its also a bit more expensive 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:46 am
				by LarsG
				at $100 it's just $10 more than DBPro...
and for those extra $10, you get a far more solid and streamlined product..
DB(Pro) is, from what I've heard, a big bug-fest!! People even not getting it to run a simple example after installing.. Programs crashing all over the place etc..
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:52 am
				by thefool
				what about using pb and ogre? But i want it to be updated to the new ogre.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:39 pm
				by LarsG
				I think it's the next item on Fred's TODO list..
			 
			
					
				OK
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:44 pm
				by thefool
				OK
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:20 pm
				by thefool
				is there a todo list anywhere so we can see whats on it?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:47 pm
				by blueznl
				perhaps no

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:55 pm
				by thefool
				perhabs ok then
im playing with the zap3d engine. He's working on a new version, but the actual is quite nice. And it makes really small executables, and is pretty fast.
			 
			
					
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				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:09 pm
				by NoahPhense
				ouch.. made with blender
http://www.blender.org/modules/document ... 11725.html
site is down right now i think.. check it out later if it is
- np
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:15 pm
				by thefool
				yes, blender is fantastic!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:55 pm
				by MadMax
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:29 pm
				by thefool
				
			 
			
					
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				Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:39 pm
				by NoahPhense
				make sure you get the latest YafRay renderer...