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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:56 pm
by thefool
Sure. I will PM you my password now.. :D

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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:59 pm
by NoahPhense
thefool wrote:Sure. I will PM you my password now.. :D
Good then I can login and give you an avatar .. 8O

- np

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:59 pm
by kake26
Just cause I'm here to help you people nail these guys I have 2 bits of info from little encounter. They guys yahoo screen name was h4ng4m3. He also contacted me through AIM via ICQ and here is that ICQ number 237240482. I do want to know something from you guys, cause this has to do with what I think the guy was doing. Was 3.80 ever a full version of PB or was it a demo? Can a demo be upgraded to a full version via an update you download for the full version? Thats what I think he was trying to do.

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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:03 pm
by NoahPhense
He probably already got the full version.. you would have to ask Geo..
If Geo's pw to the forums is the same to the secure download area.

Then this guy probably has 3.91 Full ..

- np

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:11 pm
by thefool
that would be a problem.. lets hope he dosent begin to give it away and share it on p2p networks :?

But why is he doing this?

Anyway, is he online on icq ever more?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:16 pm
by kake26
@NoahPhense: No he sent me a screen shot of his about box he had a 3.80 version

@thefool: If he had a full version it was a old one.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:50 pm
by localmotion34
actually a while back someone posted that they had seen 3.80 on a file sharing network, which adertised it was the full version. could mean quite a few people may have gotten it.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:17 pm
by Kale
This needs looking into! Image

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:22 pm
by aaron
I've seen purebasic on *****, but didn't bother to download and check it out to see if it was the full version or not. Before anyone hassles me for even looking for it, bear in mind that I have two legal licenses for purebasic and was just curious.

I was under the impression that the archives we download from the purebasic site were touched so that they could be traced back to the account. The downloads that I do have a different filename (the last few characters) when I download from my two accounts. If I am not mistaken, Fred and co. can use this stuff to figure out who is releasing their copies and they can cancel that account. We are also seeing the smart update security beefing up with username/password being required.

If it was me, I'd use the smart update to corrupt the compiler on any stupid pirate that tried to update. :twisted:

From my point of view, the compiler is priced so reasonably that I can't see the reason behind pirating it. The executables that people make can be identified (with a little work) as coming from the purebasic compiler, so anyone releasing software can be traced back anyhow.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:52 pm
by Dreglor
my computer breaks down for 2 days and see what happens

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:16 am
by NoahPhense
aaron wrote:If it was me, I'd use the smart update to corrupt the compiler on any stupid pirate that tried to update.
Excellent idea for my updater project.

thx

- np

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:18 am
by thefool
If it was me, I'd use the smart update to corrupt the compiler on any stupid pirate that tried to update
great idea, if they find the pirates. But if they are using the old PB the smartupdate wont work.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:41 am
by kake26
aaron wrote: From my point of view, the compiler is priced so reasonably that I can't see the reason behind pirating it. The executables that people make can be identified (with a little work) as coming from the purebasic compiler, so anyone releasing software can be traced back anyhow.
I totally agree with that. Even my mostly semi-broke self managed to swing buying a copy for myself. I really want to buy one or two more for my company when the time comes. I can really see myself and my company supporting PB.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:41 am
by freak
thefool wrote:it seems that there is a lot of this shit going on. but i hope fred or freak will take a look at it. (i dont know if berico is also an admin)
berikco is the admin, i'm just a little moderator :roll:
I'm sure fred will do something the next time he visits the forums.

About pirated copies:
I have seen various PB versions on p2p over the time. There is nothing to
do about that, even the new secure download probably won't change that.
The reason that even SmartUpdate is protected now is that these guys at
least won't use any of fred's payed bandwidth.

It gets really funny when these guys try to demand support. We had that once,
too bad it was in the bugs section and is deleted now. It was entertaining to read :D

Timo

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:10 am
by thefool
It gets really funny when these guys try to demand support
what are they thinking? Whatever. I have bought PB and im happy i did that. I usually buy all my dev stuff, because i hate when i can not release a program legally. I also seen some PB versions on some p2p networks. Hmm it must have been e-mule or something i belive. But that was after i bought pb, just to see how wide-spread it was on the p2p network.