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Berikco wrote:

ricardo wrote:Yes, no one can talk for everyone, but in the other hand we can't have the eyes closed ....

"We" is again for more than one

No. Its not the same

You sound like Bill Gates..I put all in one package...kill competition..
Don't you see its just fine as it is now...

??????????

Inviting GPI to join the team dont sounds to me like 'killing' competition!

Why adding some freeware tools to the package? To make it available to every user, otherwise, if the new user don't came to the forums (maybe some never come here) and browse a lot, they may not discover that there are some tools FREE and very usefull ones!

Paul's and Edwin tools are great, but cannot be included since has additional fees.

El_Choni's Tailbite, why should it be in the official package?? Let him work on it in his own way...

Ofcourse, i just suggest to add the file, not to give directions to him.

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I don't like to feel that there are some kind of rivality because the users loose at the end.

ricardo wrote:Inviting GPI to join the team dont sounds to me like 'killing' competition!

Maybe Fred has other idea's about writing the PureBasic IDE, and what it will become in future versions?

ricardo wrote: Why adding some freeware tools to the package? To make it available to every user, otherwise, if the new user don't came to the forums (maybe some never come here) and browse a lot, they may not discover that there are some tools FREE and very usefull ones!

Did you notice how many users complained about the last update, because a .res file from a freeware package made it impossible to run 3.90 ?
That's one reason why freeware tools can't be included...

El_Choni's Tailbite, why should it be in the official package?? Let him work on it in his own way...

Ofcourse, i just suggest to add the file, not to give directions to him.

Fred does give directions to everybody in he team...

ricardo wrote: I don't like to feel that there are some kind of rivality because the users loose at the end.

I don't see any rivality, your feelings are just hormones, you're fooled by hormones ... no reason to bring this up 2 times...?

Berikco wrote:I don't see any rivality, your feelings are just hormones, you're fooled by hormones ... no reason to bring this up 2 times...?

Lets stop here the discussion, just want to give my point of view or maybe my hormones point of view My personal and hormonal feeling is that there is no room for JaPBe because other reasons, but its okay for me, don't want to discuss it anymore.

I say leave it as it is.

I would say one thing, though. The official editor really, really needs autocomplete!

As a new PB user, browsing the sites, searching the forums, reading other folks experiences and code is all a part of learning to use and understand the language. I've found that generally, if a user doesn't bother to do these things they are not really interested or sincere in using the software.

As for adding other projects. I remember the old Turbo Pascal which went through something similar. Before you knew it, the system was huge and often difficult for people to learn/use. Eventually, it became the Delphi system and look at that monster. I won't even mention what adding OO on top of the existing system was like.

Cheers,
Mike T.

but still.. see what kind of userbase Delphi/Pascal has..

Perhaps PureBasic could advance as much without the bloatness?!?

Maybe in a few years, Fred.. Maybe in a few years..

> Did you notice how many users complained about the last update, because
> a .res file from a freeware package made it impossible to run 3.90 ?

What? Is this why my app won't compile with v3.90, but does with v3.81?

Fred: Is there a download URL for the full v3.90 package so I can try to
compile my app with that? Please PM me if there is, because I don't want
to be stuck with v3.81 forever (if I can help it).

PB wrote:> Did you notice how many users complained about the last update, because
> a .res file from a freeware package made it impossible to run 3.90 ?

What? Is this why my app won't compile with v3.90, but does with v3.81?

Fred: Is there a download URL for the full v3.90 package so I can try to
compile my app with that? Please PM me if there is, because I don't want
to be stuck with v3.81 forever (if I can help it).

Its about the WinConstantsToPB.Res in purebasic/residents-Directory

I personally do not like JaPBe and have never used it past a trial. I think Berikco said it best with:

Why force everybody to use jaPBe? No need for this.
I need a small and fast editor. I don't need all the extras.

Remember: Perfection is only achieved when there is nothing more to take away, NOT when theres nothing more to add!

I prefer PureBasic's current IDE to any and all alternatives.

eveybody to its own

i like japbe, dunno if it should be the default editor, but it might be mentioned a bit more

Soulfire wrote:I prefer PureBasic's current IDE to any and all alternatives.

Have you test the alternates.

@Berikco
Nearly all features in jaPBe are optional. It is possible to cut down the editor to a simple notepad with compiler-feature.

This discussion is so pointless. :roll:

This discussion is so pointless.

Agreed!

> This discussion is so pointless

Agreed. If the original poster loves japbe, then he should just use it and be
happy. I prefer the existing PureBasic editor too, and don't want someone
else trying to get it replaced.