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TI-994A wrote:

heartbone wrote:Windows 10 automatically sends parents detailed dossier of their children's internet history and computer use

Not exactly newsflash. Apparently, it's been around since Windows Vista.

Apparently the newsworthy part is the automatically generated report based on the default settings aspect.
I'm sure that there is a lot of other bloat which has been in that OS for years, crap which will never be used by most users.

heartbone wrote:Apparently the newsworthy part is the automatically generated report based on the default settings aspect.

Not exactly; the reports are always generated automatically, as per the settings. The only difference is, it's now enabled by default.

Not really newsworthy at all.

heartbone wrote:The investigators pull the web browsing history of all the students

From their home or school computer?

They wouldnt be able to do it from their home computer unless the information was set to MS, which it isnt.

They would have more tools and better access than is provided by this "feature" for monitoring school activity, which is after all a public computer where there would be zero expectation of privacy. In fact, the child would probably have to agree to monitoring by using the service in the first place, so that's no big shocker, sorry.

Microsoft to Force Windows 10 Download by Default
https://www.infopackets.com/news/9712/m ... ad-default
I have already stopped updating my Win 8.1 Laptop because Win10 starts to auto-download, selected or not.

IdeasVacuum wrote:Microsoft to Force Windows 10 Download by Default
https://www.infopackets.com/news/9712/m ... ad-default
I have already stopped updating my Win 8.1 Laptop because Win10 starts to auto-download, selected or not.

I have also turned off updating on my win 7 and 8.1 computers, I do not want 10, if you want to get rid of the win10 update stuff uninstall these updates. KB3035583, KB2952664, KB2876229, KB2976978, the first two are for win7 32bit the last two are for win8.1 64bit, not sure if this is strict so best to look for all these updates from about May. Have not tried this yet, but once these have been removed and then do a search for updates and if they appear in the list again to set them as hidden so they do not get included when updating.

electrochrisso wrote:....but once these have been removed and then do a search for updates and if they appear in the list again to set them as hidden so they do not get included when updating.

That doesn't matter.
Microsoft declare this special updates as "new version" and so they installed again. MS do it in the past and will do it in future. Believe it

Hi to All. For those that dont want Win 10. Here`s an article with a link to a program w10wiwi "Windows 10 When I Want It!" I have use the program 7 days ago checked it with VirusTotal and all the anti\virus\malware i run, seem to be no problems. Left wireshark running for a day whilst out, no packets in/out that seem amiss.

Apparently written by a HP Programmer as pissed off with MS as some of us seems to be! Please read the article check/do research if you decide to use the program "I`m quite happy at the drop of a hat to reformat and and reinstall win7"

Zebuddi.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... st-in-case

I found a lot more arrogant the fact Win10 wants to download, install, reboot more or less as it please.
Just the fact it wants to download updates without my consent is enough.

It's using my bandwidth.
It's using my disk space and it's potentially wasting some of it storing crap I didn't want in the first place.
It could install an update which will damage my system to the point of making it totally unusable and maybe unrecoverable.
It could break compatibility with something I have currently installed and working perfectly.
It could install something I consider detrimental for reasons I don't have to justify to Microsoft.
It does all that behind my back at the most inappropriate moments, not when I decide it's fine to do it.

With Win10 pro or higher you can at best delay the updates but not stop them.
Now they have released a tool you have to know it exist and you have to download to block specific updates which have screwed your system before.
This supposing you can uninstall a damaging update, not everything it's removable after has been installed.

I find this intolerable, I want a centralized place (not 10 different tools) where I can see the proposed updates, select what I want, and hide what I don't want. Like in Win7.

Even Win7 is not perfect, clicking on a update should tell what the update is for, not always repeat the same text for all the updates "this is good, fix some vulnerability, you should install it".
So one has to take note of the update id and manually go to the MS site to see what it does. Why put in those silly descriptions at all.

http://fossbytes.com/how-to-disable-win ... t-methods/

On Windows 7 (probably 8 and 8.1 too), on start-up, MS triggers CompatTelRunner.exe to run. Apparently it is checking your system for compatibility with the latest Win10 installation - in other words unannounced, cheeky spyware.

Update KB2952664 ia also spyware for Win10 - and it is listed as 'important'.

Update KB3035583 installs GWX.exe, the main executable for the "Get Windows 10" app nag screen - and it is also listed as 'important'.

DontTalkToMe wrote:I don't have to justify to Microsoft.

^ THIS. Microsoft does not own our PCs; we do. It's not theirs to muck around with as they please. If we don't want Windows 10, then they have no legal or moral right to install it without our permission.

Microsoft do not own the PC Hardware, but if it was purchased from the store with Windows installed, they probably assume they own the operating system, unless it is changed to Linux.

Even if Windows is preinstalled, it doesn't give them the right to change it.

Dude wrote:Even if Windows is preinstalled, it doesn't give them the right to change it.

Agreed, but MS are control freaks and are probably working for US intelligence services, that is why I will not touch win10, especially since they are trying to force it on every win7 and 8 system, and they do not even do a check to see if the hardware can even operate let alone the installed software, MS has probably destroyed many systems by now.

Windows 10 set to be the most widely installed version of Windows ever

"Personally I think that’s overly optimistic -- Windows 7 still has a LOT of dedicated users who have no interest in switching to Windows 10, and end of life didn’t exactly persuade Windows XP users to migrate away from that aging OS. XP still has 11.68 percent of the market."

Don't believe everything that you see on the TV.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly ... ins-again/

Earlier this month Microsoft finally went on record admitting that automatic spying within Windows 10 cannot be stopped. This sparked a lot of outrage and with ‘Threshold 2’ it appeared Microsoft had done a sharp U-turn because the background service at the heart tracking (the ‘Diagnostics Tracking Service’ aka ‘DiagTrack’) appeared to have been removed. Critics celebrated and it was another well deserved pat on the back for Microsoft.

Except it turns out Microsoft had just been very sneaky. What Tweakhound discovered and was subsequently confirmed by BetaNews, is Microsoft simply renamed DiagTrack. It is now called the ‘Connected User Experiences and Telemetry Service’ – which is both a) deliberately vague, and b) misleading (don’t ‘Connected User Experiences’ sound great).

Even sneakier is, in being renamed, Microsoft also reset users preferences. Those who dug deep into the Windows 10 registry to disable DiagTrack will find it has been re-enabled now it is called the Connected User Experiences and Telemetry Service. Yes, tracking is back and without any warning and your preferences were irrelevant.

I’d say the problem with the DiagTrack rebrand is the company wasn’t thinking. Subtle under the hood changes will always be picked up for such a high profile product. That said such a move is consistent with the negatives in Threshold 2 namely: it resets many user preferences (including basics like your preferred web browser) if they weren’t Microsoft product/services as well as silently deleting third party system monitoring apps like: CPU-Z, speccy, 8gadgetpack, SpyBot, HWMonitor and more.