ProGUI V1.38 UI Library (Small Bug Fix)

[staringfrog]

- Ask Chris for $20 upgrade to Gold license, so you don't need the userlib and can include the source directly (= no Tailbite problems)

Thats what I would do, for an extra 20 bucks you get nearly 1.5mb of top quality PB source code, then you can pick and choose the parts you want and modify to your hearts content, it would take me years to learn all that stuff Chris knows, that I can quickly learn from. This has provided me with a library of code, and am able to create really pro looking and working GUI apps using this product and the source.

Thank you, I see your point. However, what I need is a GUI library to use it and not GUI code to cannibalize it. Besides, I don't quite support the idea of selling one's codes (and for extra $20 to $40 especially). For example, User_Russian shares his code of pbTorrent openly and absolutely gratis around here (an entire torrent client application written from scratch), and there's a lot to learn from the stuff as well.

[Zach]

The information about the product discussed in this thread is wrong (as shown above, and you can check it yourself by visiting the product page and downloading the package — one component of the product indicated in its description [namely: userlib 32bit] is missing — INTENTIONALLY AND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME), and thereby may be qualified in the court of law as commercial felony.

Burden of proof is on you.

You expect a less than 24 hour turn around from someone who is so busy with their job that they have stopped development?

You're lucky to get 24 hour turn around from corporate entities who have dedicated P.R departments.

Fact is, you don't know why the library is missing or if its a mistake. You only have supposition. All you're doing now is stirring the pot for no reason. If you've truly read this thread, then you would also know Chris can be SLOW to respond at times, for whatever reason.

You were chomping at the bit for something quick and easy, and you WERE warned before you purchased it that the author can be hard to contact and has not been developing it further for some time. So yes, you were warned.

It's too bad your "superior" European mind can't grasp such simple concepts.

[marc_256]

It's too bad your "superior" European mind can't grasp such simple concepts.

Sorry,

[staringfrog]

The information about the product discussed in this thread is wrong (as shown above, and you can check it yourself by visiting the product page and downloading the package — one component of the product indicated in its description [namely: userlib 32bit] is missing — INTENTIONALLY AND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME), and thereby may be qualified in the court of law as commercial felony.

Burden of proof is on you.

You expect a less than 24 hour turn around from someone who is so busy with their job that they have stopped development?

You're lucky to get 24 hour turn around from corporate entities who have dedicated P.R departments.

Fact is, you don't know why the library is missing or if its a mistake. You only have supposition. All you're doing now is stirring the pot for no reason. If you've truly read this thread, then you would also know Chris can be SLOW to respond at times, for whatever reason.

You were chomping at the bit for something quick and easy, and you WERE warned before you purchased it that the author can be hard to contact and has not been developing it further for some time. So yes, you were warned.

It's too bad your "superior" European mind can't grasp such simple concepts.

Zach, I've said what I had to say yesterday. Had I got the lib I paid for, I would've test it and report what last version of PB it links with. Otherwise, I had to report what I had to report. I welcomed those who came to discuss, and suggested to those who came only to rant to mind their kite-flying cotton-picking obama-caring business. You might as well do your ranting elsewhere.

[Little John]

your "superior" European mind

[Demivec]

your "superior" European mind

@marc_256, Little John: IMHO I think Zach was just biting at the trolling statement staringfrog made that started with:

Again, a legal piece of information, for another slow American user here:

I don't think he realized his comment may be seen as applying to more than the person he was addressing.

[staringfrog]

I don't think he realized...

Good morning, Demivec and Team America,

He should've realized, yes, he should've realized this. But he couldn't, since, for one thing, he was so riled up with my legal definitions of what's going on here, and for another — he just proved to be slow. So, me making "a trolling statement", after all your assaults? Man, since you still don't realize it's you who are ranting here, in your bossy country and western fashion, slow is more than a compliment for you (and watch your South Park for more exact terminology). After all, your English is indeed very slow and simple, so you are slow and simple, no offense.

No one delegated you to answer for Zach himself, by the way.

And who told him I was "a European"? In fact, I live right on the border of Europe and Asia, a skosh on the Asian part, yep. Thank you for Crimea, Yankees And I'm sure we'll soon win superior minded Europeans from you, as you are really so slow, and so scandalous, and so vulgar, and so base, and so fraudulent, too. Enough? You'd better stop it, or else I'll start reposting my legal definitions, instead of sending you each time back to your farms.

[Demivec]

@staringfrong: I already knew your point of origin from your previous messages and language use. I don't wish to indulge you in your trolling. I think the moderators can take care of anything that might need to be done in that regards.

[staringfrog]

It seems to me, you knew too much NSA? However, you had been warned.

Then again, a piece of legal information, for another ranting American user here:

The information about the product discussed in this thread is wrong (as shown above, and you can check it yourself by visiting the product page and downloading the package — one essential component of the product indicated in its description [namely: userlib 32bit] is missing — INTENTIONALLY AND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME), and thereby may be qualified in the court of law as commercial felony.

As a deceived customer, I insist on closing down this thread until Chris uploads a full working version of the lib compliant with the current version of PB to his official website.

PayPal authorities are already informed.

[srod]

I am sure if you simply asked Chris for a refund he would oblige without fuss, no need to dive straight into a Paypal dispute. He is not an unreasonable person. Either that or ask him to e-mail you the latest 32-bit userlibs he has lying around. I can understand his removing the 32-bit libs whilst he awaits a Tailbite fix and the business with his website simply looks like an oversight to me.

Course you will end up with a set of 'keys' now for free once you get your refund.

[staringfrog]

srod,

right, we'd already discussed all the options yesterday (one page back), and all decisions are made. I would've never returned to the thread, if not for some slow Americans here who keep on upping the issue time again

[Zach]

Actually I think you keep posting because you're a miserable git, who likes the attention he's getting.

You decided you got ripped off the moment there was a problem. The fact is, it is likely not the case. The reason some of us keep giving you trouble, is because you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this, while asserting your view as absolute fact. Because you either like the attention you are getting, or are incredibly obtuse. I'm not sure which is the more pitiable position...

A thread is not going to be locked because you show up, offering virtually no evidence you have been aggrieved, without allowing a sufficient amount of time for the vendor to remedy the situation. Which should be done in private, by the way. Coming here after a week of trying to contact Chris and getting no response? We'd likely understand.

Showing up less than 24 hours after your purchase, repeatedly hurling legal ambiguities over your immediate interpretation of "I've been had!" - about a situation that hasn't even had the appropriate amount of time pass, to properly resolve itself? Yeah, good luck with that.

You can no more prove Chris intended to defraud you than I can prove the existence of god. Don't like the reception? That's what happens when you hurl wild accusations about a thus far upstanding member of the community who is known to go out of his way to make things right, even if he's sometimes hard to get a hold of right away. What you fail to grasp here is the basic common sense that we don't take issue with you having a grievance; it is your overtly hostile attitude and assumption of wrong doing on the part of the Vendor when you have nothing to substantiate such a claim.

In short. Grow up.

[c4s]

@staringfrog
Usually this is a really friendly and helpful forum. Please don't be so harsh, e.g. insulting other forum users and/or people is completely needless.

[staringfrog]

@staringfrog
Usually this is a really friendly and helpful forum. Please don't be so harsh, e.g. insulting other forum users and/or people is completely needless.

Yes, and there's a lot of friendly users over here, I completely agree. If you re-read the thread you'll see I always welcome those who come to discuss and not to rant. Nonetheless, I have my principles and I have to stand up to fragrant bullyism. Like when calling me a troll. That's why I have to remind newcomers what's my issue here. Why, read it back, it's all there.

P.S. See, Zach is acting again, right above your post. Team America is vigilant. I don't really get it why it's mostly Americans here who react so overbearingly and sassy about matters that are not of their concern.

[Polo]

I suggest any issue with ProGUI should be emailed to Chris and that this discussion ends now please.