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Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:36 am
by Danilo
DK_PETER wrote:For now...Just wait. In time Windows 10 will explode through the roof.
Looks like Win7 may be the new XP. Many people in 10 years, from now on, will still use Win7.
And, those people have to check every day that KBxxx and KByyy spyware doesn't get installed by accident.
What a disaster.

Re: Windows 10
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:40 pm
by heartbone
Danilo wrote:DK_PETER wrote:For now...Just wait. In time Windows 10 will explode through the roof.
Looks like Win7 may be the new XP. Many people in 10 years, from now on, will still use Win7.
And, those people have to check every day that KBxxx and KByyy spyware doesn't get installed by accident.
What a disaster.

Agreed, Windows® 7 is the new XP.
A question for anyone who cares to answer it.
Why would Microsoft remove the beautiful Aero Glass effect and replace it with flat colors and cheesy translucency?
I want to read many of your honest answers before I give mine.
I have hopes of someone else posting what I'm cynically thinking.
Windows 10's new icons show a flat future ahead
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:30 pm
by Num3
heartbone wrote:Why would Microsoft remove the beautiful Aero Glass effect and replace it with flat colors and cheesy translucency?
Because it would look weird, as in no one else uses it, on tablets and phones.
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:12 am
by Samuel
Num3 wrote:
Because it would look weird, as in no one else uses it, on tablets and phones.
In other words, everybody was doing it and Microsoft just wanted to be popular.
To be honest though, I do prefer the Windows 10 flatter look over the Windows 7 glass look, but that's just me.
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:00 am
by jack
it's sad we are so willing to comprise our liberties.

Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:47 am
by Keya
jack wrote:it's sad we are so willing to comprise our liberties.

It's sad that so many people (not you! but the Mom & Pop who buy their next computer with W10 pre-installed) are naive about it ... along the lines of "its a big public company like Microsoft, so all this privacy stuff im hearing cant be
that bad, surely!"
Sorry Mom & Pop, but all the legalese doesn't mean their gross invasion of privacy is acceptable ... it just means its legal

Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:44 am
by Lord
Keya wrote:[ ... it just means its legal

Maybe in the U.S. (or China or North Korea).
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:23 pm
by Julian
heartbone wrote:Why would Microsoft remove the beautiful Aero Glass effect and replace it with flat colors and cheesy translucency?
Because its now a unified look and feel across all platforms, including mobile/tablet. Why would they want to do something that takes battery/cpu power away from doing something useful and put it towards having some glass effects? They wouldn't.
At the end of the day, rounded icons and fancy looking graphics eat screen real estate which is why Jony Ive went from "old looking" round/graphic heavy pages on iOS to nice looking flat/square.
I'd love to hear your cynical explanation

Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:37 pm
by Julian
Keya wrote:jack wrote:it's sad we are so willing to comprise our liberties.

It's sad that so many people (not you! but the Mom & Pop who buy their next computer with W10 pre-installed) are naive about it ... along the lines of "its a big public company like Microsoft, so all this privacy stuff im hearing cant be
that bad, surely!"
Sorry Mom & Pop, but all the legalese doesn't mean their gross invasion of privacy is acceptable ... it just means its legal

Just because Microsoft tell people what they can do, doesn't mean they will do.
Much like every government in the world can spy on its citizens without telling them, that doesn't mean they will.
Case in point, the US spied on the phones of the Chancellor of Germany, do you honestly think they couldnt/wouldnt/cant spy on everyones in the US?
Don't mistake software features with a decision to allow 'big brother' in to your life, if 'big brother' wants in, it'll get let itself in.
If you want to find a local pizza shop, dont be surprised if a software vendor (google/microsoft/whoever) wants to know where you are, its a bit hard to find that local pizza place if you dont. Its not rocket science.
If you want to try and remain anonymous, go live in a cave
If you want to get up to speed on what its all about, take a look
HERE, its pretty straight forward. Most of the hype on the web are just from sites trying to grab ad revenue by scaremongering and grabbing views or anti-microsoft trolls.
Full disclosure: I use Windows, OSX & Linux (not much)

Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:16 pm
by heartbone
Julian wrote:heartbone wrote:Why would Microsoft remove the beautiful Aero Glass effect and replace it with flat colors and cheesy translucency?
Because its now a unified look and feel across all platforms, including mobile/tablet. Why would they want to do something that takes battery/cpu power away from doing something useful and put it towards having some glass effects? They wouldn't.
Offering the users the option would make even more sense for the users.
At the end of the day, rounded icons and fancy looking graphics eat screen real estate which is why Jony Ive went from "old looking" round/graphic heavy pages on iOS to nice looking flat/square.
If a too large icon size was a major consideration on the small mobile displays, then windows already allowed desktop component size customization. The forced Windows® uniformity look is about something other than icon sizes.
I'd love to hear your cynical explanation

Thanks for asking.
I think that they want to get their market used to the “flat” look, so they can put out an “new” fresh look as a part of a future paid upgrade campaign.
I'm thinking that the next generation desktop/main menu icons will feature something like
color gradient backgrounds, perhaps with a
3D stone overlay foreground option.
BTW, if you didn't already know about this...
Windows 10 automatically sends parents detailed dossier of their children's internet history and computer use
The feature, which is enabled by default during upgrading, could put children at risk as well as being a huge potential cause for embarrassment
That's right, they even spy (and snitch) on the children!

Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:22 pm
by Julian
If parents were actually good parents this wouldn't be an issue.
If the parents cared enough about their children's safety on the net, they would have had web reports coming from their router/firewall waaaay before Windows 10 was conceived.
Lets spin this BS on its head?
"Parent doesn't let child out after dark, child's civil liberties abused!"
"Parent doesn't let child ride their bike part the 'risky' part of town to their friends house, child's civil liberties abused!"
"Parent doesn't let child talk to strangers, freedom of speech impeded"
"Parents want's to know where child has been with friends.... insert sensationalist headline here"
Sound familiar to the "Windows 10 spies on children" headlines?
If a child really doesn't want their parents to find out what they're into online, they certainly won't be using a family home computer to do so, even one in their own room.
Its just garbage sensationalist headlines from uninformed journalists who literally don't have a clue about reality and sheep just lap it up.
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:00 pm
by heartbone
Instead of spinning BS, let's look a more realistic scenario.
Lets say that someone phoned an anonymous bomb threat into
the high school that your nephew attends. The investigators
pull the web browsing history of all the students and notice
that your nephew had accessed information about bomb
construction last summer, therefore a more thorough
investigation is authorized. A totally unnecessary waste
of resources, but that sort of crap will happen in
today's illogical fear based society.
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:27 pm
by Julian
heartbone wrote:Instead of spinning BS, let's look a more realistic scenario.
Lets say that someone phoned an anonymous bomb threat into
the high school that your nephew attends. The investigators
pull the web browsing history of all the students and notice
that your nephew had accessed information about bomb
construction last summer, therefore a more thorough
investigation is authorized. A totally unnecessary waste
of resources, but that sort of crap will happen in
today's illogical fear based society.
What's that gotta do with Windows 10 specifically?
That might have shown up on their radar a year earlier from the search/ISP hook's they have depending how much searching/reading he didnt on it.
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:18 am
by heartbone
Julian wrote:heartbone wrote:Instead of spinning BS, let's look a more realistic scenario.
Lets say that someone phoned an anonymous bomb threat into
the high school that your nephew attends. The investigators
pull the web browsing history of all the students and notice
that your nephew had accessed information about bomb
construction last summer, therefore a more thorough
investigation is authorized. A totally unnecessary waste
of resources, but that sort of crap will happen in
today's illogical fear based society.
What's that gotta do with Windows 10 specifically?
That might have shown up on their radar a year earlier from the search/ISP hook's they have depending how much searching/reading he didnt on it.
That's easy, think about it, before WinX there would not have been any reporting tying said minor to specific web searches, one could only compile data for the IP address used by all the occupants in the residence.
Much more targeted searches of data will now be possible for investigators to detect or extrapolate patterns from.
Create the data and it will be searched.
I'd prefer to see better use of human work.
Re: Windows 10
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:40 am
by TI-994A
heartbone wrote:Windows 10 automatically sends parents detailed dossier of their children's internet history and computer use
Not exactly newsflash. Apparently, it's been around since
Windows Vista.