Gadget?!!... GADGET!!!???? Did I just enroll in pre-school?

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:46 pm

yep, even though some companies *claim* to accept cc's of specific brands, or claim that their cc's are used worldwide, such may not be the case...

in china, there is a 'local' mastercard, displaying the standard logo, found out that some shops would not accept my international mastercard, they would only accept the *chinese* mastercard (!)

same thing for the blue card of american express, it's still not recognized by several us companies, oh, you can use the *number* and it works, but if you hand it over paying something in person they refuse the card (!)

life's funny...

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:48 pm

jack wrote:a lot of credit card companies will automatically refuse transactions made to europe,
according to them there's too much credit card fraud in those countries.
you need to call your credit card company and let them know that the transaction was indeed made by you.

Okay, now I'm more confused. I didn't think to ask if they had blocked a payment so I just checked with the card company again as you suggested. They say there have been no blocks but now were able to verify that some company had gotten approval for $72+ US but, they had not actually billed against the account yet. So now I am confused that they would get the approval and not follow up by charging my account.

I'm guessing now that Blue Paid only gets the approval and if approval is good they forward the order to PureBasic leaving them to follow through on the actual charge transaction. I told the credit card company not to block the transaction just in case, so now I guess I just wait and see what or if anything happens.

Thanks for the suggestion Jack!

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:55 pm

well, give us your cc number and we'll check it for ya'..

<evil grin>

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:09 pm

blueznl wrote:in china, there is a 'local' mastercard, displaying the standard logo, found out that some shops would not accept my international mastercard, they would only accept the *chinese* mastercard (!)

Thanks for the tip blueznl. I was actually planning to visit China so I will see what I can do about getting an account setup in China before I go. I already checked with my bank to see if the Bank of America in Hong Kong was affiliated and they said no, they just use the name but I could open an accout there in HongKong.

aaron · Post by **aaron** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:36 pm

I just checked my old email, and I got the payment confirmation from Bluepaid and the email with username and whatnot within a minute of each other for both of my licenses. Both were ordered early in the day (eastern standard time) early in the week.

I don't know when the actual payment went thru to Bluepaid but my experience with VISA has been that the actual bills to the card sometimes show up days after the actual transaction for various reasons.

It sounds like something got crossed up with your order. If I were you, I'd take it offline and fire off an email to the support guys at purebasic and see if they can track down some details for you. They've been incredibly responsive to my inquiries. Keep in mind that those guys are running probably 5 hours ahead of you during the day, so don't expect responses back when its late in the day over here in the colonies.

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:31 pm

aaron wrote:It sounds like something got crossed up with your order. If I were you, I'd take it offline and fire off an email to the support guys at purebasic and see if they can track down some details for you. They've been incredibly responsive to my inquiries. Keep in mind that those guys are running probably 5 hours ahead of you during the day, so don't expect responses back when its late in the day over here in the colonies.

The last FAQ on the FAQs page says to expect my account information about 5 minutes after I order. I took them literally so about 20 minutes after receiving the "payment accepted" notice, I sent an inquiry to support@purebasic.com to find out if there was a problem. Didn't hear anything from them so 17 hours later I wrote again to Frederic's address explaining my confusion. No reply to that inquiry either and that was 16 hours ago. Odds are too great that my original purchase and both emails all got lost. Maybe personal priorities (or whatever) may have them otherwise proccupied so I'm going to give it a break for another day and give it all a chance to catch up. Keeping fingers crossed so to speak.

Thanks again Aaron!

Doobrey · Post by **Doobrey** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:05 am

Randy Walker wrote: Maybe personal priorities (or whatever) may have them otherwise proccupied so I'm going to give it a break for another day and give it all a chance to catch up. Keeping fingers crossed so to speak.

In another forum section, Fred said he was off on holiday for 3 weeks, but he`ll be checking in here from time to time.

Post by **Dare2** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:01 am

Howdy Escobar.

Welcome to PB.

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:59 am

Escobar wrote:LOL!!!!
I'm amazed by how many replies you got on your topic Randy.
I wish the result could be the same if one posted something with more technical content lol lol lol!!!! ok ok ok! I will stop it here... don't want to make anyone angry or upset on this, just my humble reflection of the topic.

I figure if you've got any gripes, you might as well be entertaining about your presentation. No one likes change but at least everyone found something humerous in it, so hopefully its all good and I didn't upset anyone myself.

BTW, I'm a newbie to PureBasic and I think it's the most interesting and easy to use programming language I've seen so far. I bought it few days ago and I'm dealing with GADGETS my self at the moment and I don't care so much what they call it as long as it's consistent and self explained.

I expect my experience will be much the same as yours once I get started with it - - my purchase transaction was approved and then delayed for some unknown reason. I work for a small software company and our customers sometimes experience delays due to that fact. Sometimes work gets backed up and sometimes you just need to take a break so I'm fairly certain it will turn up sometime soon.

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:23 am

Doobrey wrote: In another forum section, Fred said he was off on holiday for 3 weeks, but he`ll be checking in here from time to time.

Sounds like a personal priority to me, and if my order went in during that time frame, that could explain the delay. Meanwhile, I guess I can dig around the other forums and get aquined with these infamous gadgets

Thanks for the comment Doobrey, and thanks in advance to all those who have come before me with their contributions. Looks like we have a few jesters but I see a lot of respectable effort. Their your efforts, you share them and thats just something you got to respect so thanks again!

PolyVector · Post by **PolyVector** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:25 am

@Randy...
Everything I said to you was on topic... You can repeat yourself all you like, that won't make it true... I payed attention to your remarks... I was paying attention, I was paying attention, and I WAS paying attention... (did I mention that I was paying attention?)

I am NOT a "programmer".

That is something I can agree with, you are obviously not a programmer...
The next time you have a suggestion for a language, try programming in that language for a while... If you still feel that something needs to be changed, try to present a polite argument for why and how it should be changed... Keep in mind that many un-needed changes can be a bad thing...

I really hope this wave of rudeness on the forum will die down soon... It's beginning to become a nuisance...

That being said... Welcome aboard...

PB · Post by PB » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:05 am

> I really hope this wave of rudeness on the forum will die down soon

It's clueless newbies coming in and acting as though they own the place.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. They should respect that saying.
Some suggestions are warranted, but some aren't -- and they should
look around and get to know the language first before shooting their
mouths off. It's a shame that some can't see it that way. :roll:

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:35 am

2 Comments...

1. The password and login info to download Purebasic is buggy. Buggy in a way that the ISP used by the email addy that sends that information is wacko. They are using a fake spamlist that blocks quite alot of innocent people, thus quite a bit of people here never recieves their login/pass email. I have not recieved one for several releases now, so havent quite a few others. If you have not recieved yours, then the wacko ISP have added you (or your domain) to their fake spam list.

2. Create a wrapper library (hehehe) that basically renames the Gadget commands to remove the gadget part, and pristo your set. The only bad part is that it adds a bit of K's to your program..

PB · Post by PB » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:47 am

> Create a wrapper library (hehehe) that basically renames the Gadget
> commands to remove the gadget part, and pristo your set.

That's not what Randy is complaining about. He's concerned that others will
see "gadget" in the command names in the docs and think PureBasic is an
immature product. He has to learn to get over it and accept the fact that it's
not going to change.

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:23 am

Shannara wrote:2 Comments...

2 (more) comments...

1. Shannara; Very kind of you to offer useful posts and for keeping currnt with the conversation.

PureBasic is not new and I can see their are a lot of reasonable people here so between the two, I have no worries. Sitting on the edge of my seat in anticipation... but not worried.

2. PB & PolyVector; Aside from repeating what has already been said, I don't see any point in your two previous posts, accept maybe to drive up your post count... because I know, judging by the content of your two previous posts, you could not be attacking me...

becasue that would be abusive... and everyone else has already moved on.

Point!? Narph!!!

addendum: This is another 2 comments...

1. I see what you mean about others experiencing problems getting their accnt/passwd info. If Frederic's taking time off, I don't blame him. Extended periods of tedious coding tend to cause me to want to shelf it all and take a break. If the email server is on strike, that's less incentive to hurry back

2. I just realized my posts have an edit option, which is the reason for this addendum

It wont exagerate the counter.