Where is vis2pure?

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:10 pm

Anybody know where Vis2Pure is at? Or a newest version? I did a search, all links give 404s.

Post by **Andre** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:05 pm

I think that PB (?) stopped developing, when the Visual Designers were released. Should be a statement somewhere here on the forum....

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:29 am

Ok, thanks for the info. It's kinda sad that nobody can use VB any more for GUI designing. Ah well.

PB · Post by PB » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:26 am

> I think that PB (?) stopped developing, when the Visual Designers were released.

That's correct. The reason I stopped is because there's too much hassle
for newbies using VB to create the GUI, and I didn't like explaining it all
via e-mail to them. They'd drag a non-supported gadget onto the VB form
and wonder why vis2pure didn't convert it, etc. And since there's no way
to stop VB adding such gadgets, it became too much hassle (especially for
what was a free converter). Then the official Visual Designer came along,
and I dropped vis2pure with a big sigh of relief.

Another issue was the number of updates that PureBasic kept having -- it
kept breaking vis2pure (removal of "InitGadget" etc) and I got very tired of
keeping up with Fred.

It wasn't very advanced either: no support for
PanelGadgets and stuff like that. No great loss, believe me.

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:44 pm

I wouldn't mind continuing the project then, if your up for it. I mean, I have yet to find a visual designer that allows me to create GUI w/ the speed that VB does.. and/or missing needed features that other designers have *shrugs*

Post by **freak** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:59 pm

What is it that the PureBasic VD doesn't do?

Timo

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:54 pm

Now I have to look at the newest version

But the olden one was missing the container control (which I recently found is is crap in pb compared to vb, so nvm there), no ability to remove tabs, no way to have a picbox control a container control (as I need to be able to have a black background). PV coder gave me a long work-around this issue, but then.....

One of the thing I loved and consider a professional feature is the ability to move and resize a form w/o having to use a control panel like PV. Much more VB friendly

Missing MDI, heard somewhere on these forums that Fred would not impliment MDI support due to personal reasons... grr Oh well.

I actually use Pure Designer over PV mainly due to the above reasons. It looks much more professonal to me, and it allows users to spend less time designing UI.

Anyways, I'm going ot have to check out the newest version now

The one I have is 3.80 1249.

Post by **Berikco** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:07 pm

Shannara wrote:no ability to remove tabs

Did you realy try it?? Just select a tab in tree and press del, or the X icon in toolbar

Newest version has Containergadget()

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:20 pm

Yes... I use jaPBe for code editing and VD for the gui aspect. If Delete is needed to delete tabs, then why is VD following PB when it comes to no consistancy? You have a button for pretty much every feature.... bah.

Yes the newest one contain that gadget, as mentioned before it did not exist before. I've downloaded the newest one about an hour ago and will be able to really use it in production (barring any issues) in about 6 hours. But so far IMO, VD is the top visual designer for PB out there.. and it's free to boot

I know, I've tried jaPBe, VD, paid for PV ..., and there's another one I cant quite remember....

PB · Post by PB » Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:52 am

> I wouldn't mind continuing the project then, if your up for it.

Unfortunately I don't release my source code to others. I was actually
thinking of re-writing it as a command-line version for power users only,
so there's hope yet. I agree with you that creating a GUI with the Visual
Basic editor is still my number one choice too, although the official VD for
PureBasic is getting very powerful too. If I ever release a command-line
version of vis2pure I'll announce it in these forums, so you won't miss it.

Post by **Berikco** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:05 am

Shannara wrote:Yes... I use jaPBe for code editing and VD for the gui aspect. If Delete is needed to delete tabs, then why is VD following PB when it comes to no consistancy? You have a button for pretty much every feature.... bah.

I think i need a bycicle to follow you

Sorry, can't realy read this line as i'm not native english speaker

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:05 am

Im sorry for taking too long to reply. I was recently looking for downloadable versions of vis2pure. Since I am planning on creating my own Visual Basic to Pure Basic converter and wanted a base to start from.

What I meant was that VD was following PB in the terms of being majorly inconsistant. The tabs was one if the inconsistancies in VD at the time of my previous post. I have not checked the new version of VD since I do not have an updated version of coLinux (*hint*BEACH*hint*).

But from the screenshots, it looks like it's going the OO way of coding. Basically a proc for every event.

PB · Post by PB » Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:53 am

> I was recently looking for downloadable versions of vis2pure

Okay, here it is (60k): vis2pure_030.zip

Please take note of the "ReadMe" inside it before contacting me.

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:27 am

Ok ok, i wont contact you

Anyways, thanks for the link.

Post by **Berikco** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:20 pm

Shannara wrote:
What I meant was that VD was following PB in the terms of being majorly inconsistant. The tabs was one if the inconsistancies in VD at the time of my previous post.

There was always a button in the toolbar to delete a tab, and you can use the delete key. Further there is delete in the menu, and delete in the popup menu.

No way to delete a tab?!? There are 4 ways te delete a tab.
But i guess that's not enough for you