Constructive criticism maybe?

[srod]

No, I can honestly say that like so many other internet forums, the PureBasic forum is proving itself to not be immune to the "pod people" syndrome of people generally being rude to other other people because of anonymity. Sad to see it happen but not entirely unexpected either.

That is just part of the human experience I'm afraid; you'll find it everywhere! In my book; it's about how you deal with it? You'll never eradicate it and so, why let it bother you?

I've just re-read this entire thread and, well, there's nothing really here as I see it for you to take offence over. Weavster wasn't offensive in his first reply to you - at least I don't think he was?

And if I was new to these forums and this was the first thread I encountered then I certainly wouldn't think that this community was anything other than being for the greater good etc.

Anyhow, if you are dumping PB purely for coding reasons, then fair enough - can't argue with that. If it is because you have fallen foul of a couple of members then, well, good luck!

As the Irish would say - "t'was all in good fun!"

Except that for some it isn't in fun, and the ones approving of him doesn't help the situation any.

Ah, cartoon violence - nothing to take seriously. Sure life is a serious business, but if you can't laugh in the face of adversity then when can you? There are too many miserable gits around that I certainly will not be adding to their number any time soon!

Don't take things so personally lad.

When all is said and done, these forums remain a great place to come for help and advice when needed and remained so even throughout the real flames we saw about a year or so ago. That will never change inmo. Why, I've just had a personal message from Sparkie telling me that I am a malignant turd with all the grace and sophistication of a... malignant turd! And I'm not about to argue with professor Sparkie - no sir!

Right, better get back to some coding... these damn bugs will not create themselves!

[naw]

the "pod people" syndrome

I'd like to claim a FIRST on behalf of Tipperton.

The first repeat usage of a new IT industry term - remember folks you read it here first.

Well done Tipperton lets (as part of a community drive) try and get Pod People into the regular English Vernacular...

[SFSxOI]

.... And all SFSx01 is interested in is promoting his campaign of hate against what he calls "big content" and he doesn't care who he steps on towards that goal.

No, I can honestly say that like so many other internet forums, the PureBasic forum is proving itself to not be immune to the "pod people" syndrome of people generally being rude to other other people because of anonymity. Sad to see it happen but not entirely unexpected either.

Not true. I haven't promoted anything. I've only ever responded to what youv'e posted when you start on your 'everything in the world must obey the anti-piracy movement and DRM is king' stuff. I'm simply saying that there are more important things to worry about.

Things that are pushed by big content have one purpose and one purpose only and thats money, when they grow tired of fighting the pirates they will come after the rest of us with further restrictions like their plans to make it necessary for a DVD player to have an internet connection before the tray will even open and they authorize it. Then there is the "pay as you play" fee they want to impose so after you buy a DVD, each time you watch it you will need to pay a fee to do so. This is only part of what DRM is scheduled to do, Wait till about 10 years from now cause you ain't seen nothing yet. You wont even boot your computer unless they authorize it, and for running things like PureBasic - thats going to be out of the picture unless PureBasic pays them an annual fee for their 'services' for authorizing a computer to operate, all thanks to that DRM crap they are continuing to develop.

So its not a hate of big content, its a hate of their practices and what they will do to the rest of us, you, me, all of us in the future. Heck, the ASCAP already has (actually will file soon) a law suit against AT&T for ring tones because they claim its a public performance and they want their cut. What happens when those ring tones become so wide spread that ASCAP decides it wants each user to pay them a fee automatically if their phone rings and its using a ring tone? Its coming.

So yes, when I see someone mention that anti-piracy crap i see the writing on the wall and really can't help but say something about it, especially to those who are blinded by the big content crap.

But hey, look, we still love ya.

[SFSxOI]

the "pod people" syndrome

I'd like to claim a FIRST on behalf of Tipperton.

The first repeat usage of a new IT industry term - remember folks you read it here first.

Well done Tipperton lets (as part of a community drive) try and get Pod People into the regular English Vernacular...

LoL

I'm going to tell my wife her term and definition took root somewhere.

[naw]

Yes - its a seminal moment, I wonder if Apple already trademarked it?

[the.weavster]

the.weavester apparently likes pushing peoples buttons. Do you know what we call people like that? Bullies. I've had enough of bullies to fill several lifetimes.

In the words of Lou Reed "If you spit in the wind it comes right back at you". Really, if you're going to dish it out you'd better be prepared to take some in return. If you're really that thin-skinned you're better off not shooting your mouth off and drawing yourself into a confrontation.

Notice that his first message promotes doing physical violence on people which is never an answer to anything.

Oh for goodness sake, take a look at the very next post - Kaeru is not a native English speaker but he has no problem differentiating between a serious point and a bit of banter.


If you don't presume to tell people what they should or shouldn't think, when they can and can't post and if you refrain from insulting someone just because they disagree with you then you and I will get along famously. However if you act like a little dictator don't be too surprised if I snipe at you.

[utopiomania]

@Tipperton:

I've heard of two forums that are said to be especially bad, face punch and off topic.

Links??

[naw]

@utopiaman

whoa - you wanting to let off some steam - is this like some kind of virtual 'Fight Club' thing

But seriously , I think there is a lot of mileage in the pod people thing... ...lets start a cultural revolution here!

I propose starting a new thread titled pod people where respondants can post replies describing when and where they used the phrase in day-to-day / online communication.

I would like to invite Mrs SFSxOI to briefly define the true meaning of pod people and the context in which it can be used.

Perhaps in the process, this thread could lighten up a little and we could all just get along. We all have a contribution to make and in the process make our mark on the world. IMO the more we shout the less we're listened to...

But I digress, lets get back to what's important here and get pod people into the dictionary - is any one with me

[rrpl]

@Naw

IMO the more we shout the less we're listened to...

This is very true and perhaps gets us somewhat back to what the original post was all about.

It all very well extolling the virtues of a fight. Hell I like one as much as the next guy - male bonding and all that, but essentially there is really very little benefit other than getting our frustrations out in the open.

By all means expect that if you what to use forums to let your frustrations out that someone else will return in kind. As @SRod pointed out this is somewhat human nature.

Constructive criticism on the other hand allows the exploration of other possible ways of doing things. By not bringing your baggage to a forum you will no doubt get some actual useful information out of it be it in coding or be it other topics.

Now I've got that out of my system, lets get back to the brawling

[SFSxOI]

I would like to invite Mrs SFSxOI to briefly define the true meaning of pod people and the context in which it can be used.

.....and get pod people into the dictionary - is any one with me

I mentioned this to her, after she quit laughing she said she would come up with a rough definition, so here it is:

POD People concept definition:

These are people in which the use of the internet, blogs, twitters, cell phones, computers, or technological communications means has replaced, or to some extent replaced or are substituted for, traditional human interaction and social graces or rules normally associated with face-to-face physical human interaction and which allows people to say or do things through these means they would never be allowed or permitted to do freely without consequences of some type through traditional human interaction social graces or rules or conduct normally associated with face-to-face physical human interaction.

The term Pod People is in context with the movie 'Invaision of the Body Snatchers' in which humans were replaced by an alien race by growing alien human replicants in pod's similar to large bean pods and replacing the real human that was replicated. When a real human was detected by these replicant aliens the alien replicant would start pointing at the real human and scream a very loud shrill. This is very similar to numerous postings and technological communications use. Especially on the internet, where one is free to do in an anonymous manner what is commonly refered to on the internet as 'flame' or disagree by cursing, threaten, degrade or abuse, or in anyway argue in a manner that would not normally be acceptable by traditional human interaction social graces or rules. Such activity is similar to the loud shrill given by the ailen replicants but in writing and their interactions have been replaced by something that is alien to traditional human interaction social graces or rules to any extent because such use of these items allows the person to remain anonymous or free from the need for physical face to face interaction.

This activity also includes senseless words or actions which bear no real context relationship to the subject at hand which are put forth simply because the means exist to enable one to do so. This activity is similar to the activities of the alien replicants. The alien replicants would go through their day as mimics of the real human daily activity and would do so in a sort of 'mindless but don't have a clue' manner just because they could.

Example of this concept is; someone face to face with another person tells them to "fuc* Off" - this would normally arouse anger in the other person if such was directed in an unfriendly manner. Due to the physical presence the other person might physically assualt the person who said it. Knowing such an assualt and bodily harm might result the person who would say this might choose their words a little more carefully or say nothing at all. However, on the internet one is anonymous and free of these traditional social bounds and is free to do the same thing without being concerned for the need to choose words carefully to avoid such physical confrontations. The same is true for any other technological means in which there is no actual physical traditional face to face interaction.

[Kaeru Gaman]

oookay... I think it's normal for english texts to bear that few commata?
in german the first sentence would be clarified using three or more additional commata.

besides that... good and seemingly complete definition.


> .....and get pod people into the dictionary - is any one with me
yup, nice idea.

urban dictionary? wikipedia?


oh, and for the protocol: I'm no pod peop, I'm a rude arrogant asshole in real life, too.

[srod]

oh, and for the protocol: I'm no pod peop, I'm a rude arrogant asshole in real life, too.

Bloody right there!

[idle]

So you have pod people and the rest antipodeans, just as well I live in the right hemisphere!

[Digital Wargames]

Yes - its a seminal moment, I wonder if Apple already trademarked it

I imagine Apple users have a lot of experience with semenal moments :roll:

[Tipperton]

If you don't presume to tell people what they should or shouldn't think, when they can and can't post and if you refrain from insulting someone just because they disagree with you then you and I will get along famously.

It was you, not me that started with the insults. When you posted this:

As I recall you were the only one who got heated not SFSxOI, then you threw your rattle out of your pram when another op (I think it was Paul) very politely asked you to cool your jets.

Insulting me by calling me an infant. Even more telling is that you had to go to an old lthread to dig up something you could use to support throwing your insults.

Are you one of those people that hold a grudge and never let it go? You really should seek professional help for that because over time all that hate will eat you up from the inside and leave nothing but an empty shell.

If you didn't like or disagreed with what I said that's fine and is your opinion that you are entitled to. You could very easily have made your point without the insults. But no, for some reason only you know you had to insult me. So if anybody started anything it was you.

However if you act like a little dictator don't be too surprised if I snipe at you.

You actually say something like this, and then find fault with me for doing the very same thing to you? Sounds like a double standard to me. It's perfectly OK for you to snipe at other people but heaven forbid that anyone should even think of sniping at you!

Seems to me you have some issues you need to resolve before you start dictating to others what they should or should not do.

I've heard of two forums that are said to be especially bad, face punch and off topic.

Links??

Let me google those for you:
Face Punch Forum
Off Topic Forum