Seminal Musicians

[thefool]

Whilst I wont deny that I am stupid my IQ puts me in the top 2% of the population.

whole 2%?


nah, the IQ isn't important. So good you fired up that you don't deny you're stupid. Intelligence is <> but also = knowledge

I wasn't suggesting you should kill yourselves with drugs or alcohol, just experience life.

Me & my family booked a flight to south africa with return 3 weeks after, we rented a car and then drove around on our own. Besides being only 20 I have travelled to far more countries than ordinary 20 year olds.
(did the same to cuba this year..)

Sure its not backpacking when you got a few credit cards in your pocket, but still interesting.

And also I like skiing, and I usually compete using GPS's with my little brother on who can reach the highest speed on the slopes.

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But you still didn't get my point on why kraftwerk inspired so many. Kraftwerk litteraly inspired the whole elektro scene, and wikipedia even claims Trans-Europe Express and Computerworld as being directly influencial on the first elektro hits.

Kraftwerk was also a strong influence in the genre of Chicago House Music

And house is funnily enough propotional to much of the modern music. From robbie williams to tiesto and around.

[electrochrisso]

@thefool
I know its a pain waiting for a musical product to arrive, I once had to wait over two months for my Behringer U-Control to arrive as it had only just been released.
Just a quick run down on what gear I use in my little studio.

Synthesizers and Samplers for classic sounds.
Roland D110 Linear Arithmetic synthesis, Akai VX90 full analog, Yamaha Tx7 FM synthesis, Casio CZ1000 Cosmo synthesizer, Ensoniq ESQ-1 digital/analog synthesizer, Roland EP-5 Digital Piano, Emax SE digital/analog 12bit sampler, Ensoniq mirage digital/analog 8bit sampler.

Other gear includes.
Rx5 Drum Machine 12bit, Casio midi drum controller, Tascam 22/4 4 track reel to reel with dbx noise reduction box, Tascam 564 4 track digital recorder, Roland VS880EX 8 track digital recorder, Yamaha Rex50 effects unit, Midiverb II effects unit, Roland Midi Guitar and Contoller, Alesis analog mixer and analog compressor as well as several guitars and effects units.

I also have plenty of PC stuff as well.
I mainly use Steinberg cubasis&cubase for sequencing with several high quality audio cards. I use a Roland U8 and Behringer UMX25 midi controllers, along with thousand upon thousands of plugins, effects, samples and sounds.

Well a hobby can turn into an obsession, but I have collected what I need for total music creation over the years that covers a very wide spectrum of sonic audio production that keeps me pretty busy as far as music goes.

[Irene]

The right way to understand and listen music can't be learned.

And, obviously, yours is the definitive judgement of what is "The right way to understand and listen music"?

And your problem is? In my post the last sentence clearly states that finding the right way to understand music is dependant on the person and differs most likely with every person.

Hmp! Hmp! Great way to ruin my morning!! >_<

[the.weavster]

the last sentence clearly states that finding the right way to understand music is dependant on the person and differs most likely with every person.

What, even those poor souls for whom:

the media and MTV that has modified your brain cells to malfunction

It sounds like they've been through a terrible ordeal and only total immersion in the therapeutic sounds of Kraftwerk can save them.

Hmp! Hmp! Great way to ruin my morning!! >_<

A little light-hearted banter ruins your whole morning? You need to keep some sense of perspective here.

parkour rocks!

Agreed - I find videos of Sébastien Foucan or David Belle totally mesmerising.

[Irene]

Hmp! Hmp! Great way to ruin my morning!! >_<

A little light-hearted banter ruins your whole morning? You need to keep some sense of perspective here.

Perspective? Perspective?! I tell you what's the perspective of my inner feelings: Something that you will never understand! Only few actually can do that and it is more complex than algebra or PureBasic!

I can really easily lose my temper, so mind you "the.weavster". This is not a Hollywood film!

I'm out of here, a little respect is _so_ much asked! Hmp!

[Num3]

I'm out of here, a little respect is _so_ much asked! Hmp!

Here you go then....

I tried to discover
A little something to make me sweeter
Oh baby please refrain
From breaking my heart
I'm so in love with you
I'll be forever blue
That you give me no reason
Why you're making me work so hard
That you give me no
Well you give me no
You give me no soul
I hear you calling
Please, give a little respect
to me...
I'm so in love with you
I'll be forever blue
That you give me no reason
Why you're making me work so hard
That you give me no
Well you give me no
You give me no soul
I hear you calling
Please, give a little respect
to me...

Best cover i've seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuSgc68t1ZM

[thefool]

@thefool
I know its a pain waiting for a musical product to arrive, I once had to wait over two months for my Behringer U-Control to arrive as it had only just been released.
Just a quick run down on what gear I use in my little studio.

Synthesizers and Samplers for classic sounds.
Roland D110 Linear Arithmetic synthesis, Akai VX90 full analog, Yamaha Tx7 FM synthesis, Casio CZ1000 Cosmo synthesizer, Ensoniq ESQ-1 digital/analog synthesizer, Roland EP-5 Digital Piano, Emax SE digital/analog 12bit sampler, Ensoniq mirage digital/analog 8bit sampler.

Other gear includes.
Rx5 Drum Machine 12bit, Casio midi drum controller, Tascam 22/4 4 track reel to reel with dbx noise reduction box, Tascam 564 4 track digital recorder, Roland VS880EX 8 track digital recorder, Yamaha Rex50 effects unit, Midiverb II effects unit, Roland Midi Guitar and Contoller, Alesis analog mixer and analog compressor as well as several guitars and effects units.

I also have plenty of PC stuff as well.
I mainly use Steinberg cubasis&cubase for sequencing with several high quality audio cards. I use a Roland U8 and Behringer UMX25 midi controllers, along with thousand upon thousands of plugins, effects, samples and sounds.

Well a hobby can turn into an obsession, but I have collected what I need for total music creation over the years that covers a very wide spectrum of sonic audio production that keeps me pretty busy as far as music goes.

Interesting things you got
I don't have any analog synths at the moment, just virtual and then hardware around to help me controlling.

Music is a dream of mine, hence i decided to purchase everything legally for it. But lately i have mostly done smaller loops and read a lot of stuff in books and around. Thats a great way of learning, and then i will try to combine the tricks and knowledge when creating whole tracks.

If (or rather, when ) i get a track done and if it gets good and i get support from others, i will purchase hardware. But right now i do pretty well with high quality samples and v instruments/effects.

But you know, first spend time learning. Then create a good track. Then promote. I do have it in me but the question is if i'll ever get it out. Thats my problem. Getting it out of the head. Step 1 (learning tech) and things like the padkontrol i'm waiting for will help me

I'll be sure to post it on the forum, of course, if i get a track done.
I suppose the first thing i will try to make postable is a trance track, but in my head i have some other weird genres. Sometimes even love songs and rnb.. Thats just crazy so i'll stick to trancehouse for now hehe.

edit: Well the last months, from summer or so, i've been working at my percussion side. Its not a problem to imagine it in the head but its harder to get it out. Thats where the padkontrol sohuld help me hehe

[Rook Zimbabwe]

Coletrane
The Carpenters for bringing sappy schmaltz to the forefront...
The Beat Slugs (lets see if anyone gets that!)
Frank Zappa and Robert Moog - electronics became more than noise
Peter Frampton
Janis Joplin
Jimi Hendrix
Funky Wonderpants and GDog from NYC... took Acid Jazz to a new funky level!!!

Actually virtually every famous musician you can think of changed the music world in some way... you have to to do that to be unique.

Name somebody no one knows about who changed the music world... That is the real trick!

@Irene: Yu dyed your hair!

[electrochrisso]

@Rook!, I would love to get my hands on a Mini Moog synthesiser.

@thefool
You should get yourself a couple of older analog or digital\analog if you can as the electronics inside them are what makes them sound very different (big fat and juicy) than the emulated digital plugins and they are a good way to make interesting samples you can use in your PC software etc.
Check out your local pawn brokers or second hand shops as sometimes they have them and they can be very cheap as the shop owners hardly know what they are worth and you can almost name your price. Synths that were worth thousands of dollars can be had for less than $100 sometimes if you are lucky.

My collection started 20 years ago, so in reality I only have got 1 piece each year and I have only had 1 disk drive problem which cost nothing as 3.5 disk drives are give aways these days.

I find it hard to concentrate on one score for long and hardly ever make a complete one. I tend to get bored and move on to another so I have heaps of unfinished creations lying around. Most of it has been learning audio engineering and creating sounds, but I have learned a fair bit how to play keyboard and guitar, drum tapping, mixing, mastering etc. to get a professional sound, I just need to concentrate on making completed arrangements.

All my PC gear is strictly legal too, got most of it cheap on ebay and you can download hundreds of free VST plugins, drum machines, beat boxes, samples and loops etc that are of good quality, it just takes a bit of time sorting through the shit from the clay.

I would be interested in listening to what you are creating and I will also post some stuff I am creating when I get some download webspace in the near future.

Anyhow you have fun, it will keep you busy for years.

[naw]

number 1? barely heard of him

I hadn't until naw's post.

But followed up on him and I reckon he's made a major impact.

Still going. Haven't got to kraftwerk yet.

Edit:

BTW, #1, #2 etc is not how I am prioritising them. Just based on era.

Actually, I only like the Blues - I dont love it, but I recognise Robert Leroy Johnsons important influence on all music that happened after Bach/Mozart.
(ie Blues/Jazz/Swing/RocknRoll/Rock & Modern pop dross RnB/Soul)

Its difficult to be objective and not simply list your favourite bands.

I think Dares idea to list chronologically is a good one - to do it in order of importance is too difficult and this thread would stagnate (which would be a shame)

[thefool]

@thefool
You should get yourself a couple of older analog or digital\analog if you can as the electronics inside them are what makes them sound very different (big fat and juicy) than the emulated digital plugins and they are a good way to make interesting samples you can use in your PC software etc.
Check out your local pawn brokers or second hand shops as sometimes they have them and they can be very cheap as the shop owners hardly know what they are worth and you can almost name your price. Synths that were worth thousands of dollars can be had for less than $100 sometimes if you are lucky.

My collection started 20 years ago, so in reality I only have got 1 piece each year and I have only had 1 disk drive problem which cost nothing as 3.5 disk drives are give aways these days.

I find it hard to concentrate on one score for long and hardly ever make a complete one. I tend to get bored and move on to another so I have heaps of unfinished creations lying around. Most of it has been learning audio engineering and creating sounds, but I have learned a fair bit how to play keyboard and guitar, drum tapping, mixing, mastering etc. to get a professional sound, I just need to concentrate on making completed arrangements.

All my PC gear is strictly legal too, got most of it cheap on ebay and you can download hundreds of free VST plugins, drum machines, beat boxes, samples and loops etc that are of good quality, it just takes a bit of time sorting through the shit from the clay.

I would be interested in listening to what you are creating and I will also post some stuff I am creating when I get some download webspace in the near future.

Anyhow you have fun, it will keep you busy for years.

Yeah i know the juicy sounds hehe

About writing full scores, i suppose the only way is to just do it. Once your smaller creations begin to sound like you want them to sound, its just about time to write complete arrangements (i suppose)

I had some problems finding free drum samples, so i ended up purchasing a vengeance sample cd and a nexus drum expansion, which absolutely fullfills my needs

[electrochrisso]

thefool wrote:
About writing full scores, i suppose the only way is to just do it. Once your smaller creations begin to sound like you want them to sound, its just about time to write complete arrangements (i suppose)

Thanks for advice I am working on it.

And good free drum samples are hard to find, you only get a few samples from the sample cd's and there are so many cd compilations to choose from. I did get a couple with the Steinberg stuff I puchased that arn't too bad with heaps of REX as well. REX are good but use a lot of disk access because they are chopped into a lot of smaller samples, best to sample them when you are done with tweaking them, if you are going to use a lot of them though.

Anyway happy mixing.

[thefool]

For what I do the vengeance and nexus stuff is perfect

But of course i'm not limited to that club/electro stuff, and i do have a huge bunch of other drums for whatever style i'd like to do

Actually, i spent a long time building up something. I allways felt i missed something new, for once now lately i have felt like the studio is ready for me to use it. Its a combination of new knowledge and a ton of software and a few midi devices, but its there now. Finally!
(doesn't mean im not looking for new stuff, but now i can actually sit down and use it without worrying.. And get the results i want)

But you are right, there are quite a big deal of sample cd's out there.

Anyway happy mixing

Thanks, you too

If you never try you'll never make it. If you got talent and try, its something different..

arh. still waiting for my PadKontrol though! But i promised someone i'd make a few tracks now, instead of just fooling around. Closed releases I suppose, or just local at the forum. Not anywhere like myspace or whatever, i'll wait till i have learned some stuff about arrangements..

Cya

[DTecMeister]

Try listening to the following for inspiration:
Albums of:
Fate's Warning - Shades of Grey, Perfect Symmetry, Parallels, Awaken the Guardian
Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time, Powerslave, Fear of the Dark
Rush - 2112, Caress of Steel, Permanent Waves, A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres
Yes - 90125, Themes from Topographical Oceans
Brian Eno - Another Green World
Alan Parson Project - Turn of a Friendly Card
Black Sabbath/Ozzy - Paranoid, Blizzard of Ozz, Diary of a Madman
Suicidal Tendencies - How can I laugh tomorrow, Lights...Camera...Revolution!
Voivod's cover of "Astronomy Domine"
King Diamond's Time

Others:
Def Leppard,
Trans-Syberian Orchestra,
Europe,
Asia,
Scorpians
The Police
The Cars
The Ramones
Triumph
Overkill
Danzig

[thefool]