Is Fred ok?

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:27 pm

I just wanted to ask how live is going for Fred, he didn't post for 19 days now. Anyone knows wether he is on holiday?

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:32 pm

He's drinking margaritas on the beach with some beautiful ladies, taking a much needed break

Just kidding, I really have no idea.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:40 pm

Nik wrote:I just wanted to ask how live is going for Fred, he didn't post for 19 days now. Anyone knows wether he is on holiday?

I hope it's because of the workload of developing the PB Mac OS X v4.0 version. I'm getting a little concerned over Fred's lack of visibility on the forums, especially the apparent lack of personal support regarding new licenses that some newcomers seem to suffer from.

I've never written a language before so i may be ignorant to the facts, but surely if you wrote the whole language using ANSI C/++ then there would be no porting issues? Just plug in the (graphic/network/etc..) API of choice for each platform?

I remember the old days of when you would see Fred on the forums answering questions everyday.

Post by **Fred** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:15 pm

All the time is invested on OS X 4.0, and it's going smoothly. Sometimes you can't do all the things you want to, choices are needed

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Derek · Post by **Derek** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:16 pm

@Fred, nice to know people are thinking of you.

Post by **Fred** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:19 pm

Kale wrote:I've never written a language before so i may be ignorant to the facts, but surely if you wrote the whole language using ANSI C/++ then there would be no porting issues? Just plug in the (graphic/network/etc..) API of choice for each platform?

Actually PB generates assembly code, which is different between Windows and OS X for example (different CPU). Also "just" using the C API for every OS isn't a small task, you can be sure of than. If it was just a matter of recompilation, it would be out since a while...

This version is also time consumming due to big internal changes between 3.x and 4.0. OS X is the lastest plateform to be migrated and once it will be done, the development cycle should be much faster.

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:01 pm

I'm willing to test on an intel Mac, i have rosetta aswell. I'm realy happy to see you alive man, I absolutely understand how hard this job is, especially porting the 4.0 features to PPC, I guess building for Inetl Macs only wouldn't be very hard since the Linux Version shouldn't take much work to compile on intel Macs, (btw if you don't have an Intel Mac at hand I could offer you a remote SSH connection if you want just PM me)

Maybe you should realy take more advantage of the PPC work you do and compile it for Linux aswell, seeing PB run on a PS3 would be awesome, maybe for 4.2 ?

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:12 pm

WayHey! yipeee, long time no see Fred!

nice news on MacOSX!

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:15 pm

Decided not to finish the linux version? =(

WishMaster · Post by **WishMaster** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:56 pm

> All the time is invested on OS X 4.0
A stable-working Linux version would be nice...

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:13 pm

WishMaster wrote:> All the time is invested on OS X 4.0
A stable-working Linux version would be nice...

Mmhhh... the good thing we need is several Freds in parallel processing.

techjunkie · Post by **techjunkie** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:18 pm

Fred wrote:All the time is invested on OS X 4.0, and it's going smoothly. Sometimes you can't do all the things you want to, choices are needed .

So I'll guess you have no time for the WoW expension "The Burning Crusade"?

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:54 pm

Don't even think about such evil ideas

Post by **freak** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:04 am

We are not done with linux yet, but as you can see in the forum, the rate of reported bugs is very low.
So we decided to get started on OSX and have some linux bugfix sessions in between.

If you want the linux version to be a solid as possible, then test as much as possible now and keep those reports comming.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:27 am

freak wrote:We are not done with linux yet, but as you can see in the forum, the rate of reported bugs is very low.
So we decided to get started on OSX and have some linux bugfix sessions in between.

If you want the linux version to be a solid as possible, then test as much as possible now and keep those reports comming.

But when bug reports go unfixed...

I've reported a bug with sprite3d and other drawing commands. Seems to be ignored.

You guys should be testing this stuff more than us anyways, to be frank. I'm more than happy to help as long as progress is being made, as i'm sure we all are. Just because we stop some bug reports, your product stops in progress?

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