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 Post subject: Search PureBasic Forum -discuss
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:28 pm 
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Randy Walker wrote:
Placing the whole term in double quotes doesn't help because the forum search will cast out the quotes before it proceeds to disect and destroy the desired search term.

No, it doesn't. If I enter "EN_CHANGE" as the search term, it successfully finds (and even highlights in yellow) that exact phrase; and indeed from this thread. I don't see any problem with the search function.

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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:56 pm 
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Placing the whole term in double quotes doesn't help because the forum search will cast out the quotes before it proceeds to disect and destroy the desired search term.

No, it doesn't. If I enter "EN_CHANGE" as the search term, it successfully finds (and even highlights in yellow) that exact phrase; and indeed from this thread. I don't see any problem with the search function.

It also matches 13526 other postings that don't have that term in them. I must confess I didn't check them all to verify that last statement, I'll leave that up to you if you wish to disagree :mrgreen: . The search reports that it ignored the "EN" part of the search term. Who wants to search through a bunch of search results that don't even include the term you specified?

It is true that even though the search dissects and tosses out portions it will correctly highlight the original term in yellow if it does appear in the butchered results. :) :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:53 pm 
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It also matches 13526 other postings that don't have that term in them

You didn't search for what I specifically posted: "EN_CHANGE" (with quotes). Try it with that, and you'll get 1 exact match, instead of 13526. Here's some screenshots as proof. Note that even though the "search term used" doesn't show the underscore character, the entire text, including underscore, is highlighted in yellow; which is all that matters.

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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:20 am 
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...but there are search terms that the forum search simply deems as unsuitable, because the search word is too short or populous. The Google search overcomes the limitations.

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Too short can be overcome with the * wildcard, and too many results can be overcome by restricting the search to specific forums and/or authors.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:44 am 
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MachineCode wrote:
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Placing the whole term in double quotes doesn't help because the forum search will cast out the quotes before it proceeds to disect and destroy the desired search term.


No, it doesn't. If I enter "EN_CHANGE" as the search term, it successfully finds (and even highlights in yellow) that exact phrase; and indeed from this thread. I don't see any problem with the search function.


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Try it with that, and you'll get 1 exact match, instead of 13526. Here's some screenshots as proof.

Sorry MachineCode, and please look again. You are correct in so far as the results being ''1 exact match'' and your screenshots only serve to prove that you are also wrong. There is something wrong with it. There are indeed significantly more than ''1 exact match'', as evidenced by results returned by Google using the method I prescribed above. Here are just a few:

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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:27 pm 
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Randy Walker wrote:

All your matches are from a totally different URL and forum! Did you even look at the domain names? This forum is "purebasic.fr", not "purebasic.com", so it's no wonder that this forum's search doesn't find them. Google will indeed find old forums when searching, but that doesn't mean my example is wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:36 pm 
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MachineCode wrote:
All your matches are from a totally different URL and forum!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a funny one MachineCode, and I think wrong again.

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Did you even look at the domain names?
Did you?
I *only* visit and login to forums.purebasic.com/english/index.php
The *only* forum URL I use to search is forums.purebasic.com/english/search.php

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This forum is "purebasic.fr", not "purebasic.com", so it's no wonder that this forum's search doesn't find them. Google will indeed find old forums when searching, but that doesn't mean my example is wrong.
The sample in my original post was: site:forums.purebasic.com (<< see there where it says "purebasic.com")

I do not speak French.
I do not know how to read French.
So, I have no idea how you can claim
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:evil: This forum is "purebasic.fr" :evil:

I posted some useful information to anyone looking for answers to their coding problems.
I even commented this search tip would apply to *ALL* forums in my original post.
So far, you have trashed my post and consequntenly the intent of that post with:
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blaa blaa blaa
over and over and over an over ... again and again and again.

Got something useful to contribute?
Really :?
Anything????
Anything at all???

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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum
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Sigh. Anyone care to explain to Randy why a search on a "purebasic.fr" forum will not show any results for an old "purebasic.com" forum? He doesn't seem to understand that they're two entirely different and separate databases.

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It's all a bit strange. I'm typing this on the www.purebasic.fr/english forum. I use that as the target for my specific Google search, and the results are all found on www.purebasic.fr/english.

Pure Basic forum search for "GDI Plus" finds nothing ('No suitable matches were found.')

Google Search finds 45 entries.

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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum
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MachineCode wrote:
Sigh. Anyone care to explain to Randy why a search on a "purebasic.fr" forum will not show any results for an old "purebasic.com" forum? He doesn't seem to understand that they're two entirely different and separate databases.


Erm, MachineCode... no. They are not different databases, they are the same database. as a matter of fact it is the exact same identical forum. I suggest you do a search with google about subdomains, cookies and url redirection.


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 Post subject: Re: Search PureBasic Forum -discuss
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:18 pm 
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i splitted the topic, from here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=48941&p=372255#p372255

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MachineCode wrote:
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It also matches 13526 other postings that don't have that term in them

You didn't search for what I specifically posted: "EN_CHANGE" (with quotes). Try it with that, and you'll get 1 exact match, instead of 13526. Here's some screenshots as proof. Note that even though the "search term used" doesn't show the underscore character, the entire text, including underscore, is highlighted in yellow; which is all that matters.


@MachineCode: Thanks for highlighting the quotes for me. Yes, that certainly does narrow down the results. It doesn't cure the inadequacies in the search though. There are still topics that include that term/constant that aren't returned by the result.

Thanks again for the hint for using quotes to narrow down the result of the butchered search terms. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:23 am 
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Rings wrote:
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(Should this be a sticky somewhere?)

done, and also splitted topic into
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=48957
thx

Thank you Rings. I noticed my post turned into a sticky long before you announced it. Had to wonder if that wasn't MachineCode's incentive for making so much noise :mrgreen:

Also, want to thank you for cleanup on my original thread. :arrow: Nothing but useful comments there now :D

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Sorry for all the fuss I made. I guess I was wrong after all.

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