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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ebknoppert.


And here it is....

The new designer for PureBasic.

You can all read about it on the Hellobasic site.

It's been tested on Windows98 and NT2000
At this moment the price is kept lower as introduction.
Be quick, next week it will be the normal price..

This designer will be updated frequently.
Do not worrie for having to pay for these updates, this is far from now.
Maybe next year or even later.
So.. until then updates will be free.

Have a peek and download the full installation.
This version does not save projects but you will still be able to check this designer.

If you think you like it, revisit and click the regsoft link.
Regsoft is a trusted company, PBSoft will not have any insight to your credit card data.

Thanks!

Edwin Knoppert


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

Okay, I took a peek and came up with these thoughts:

> At this moment the price is kept lower as introduction.

US $39 is cheap? If you say so... remember, the PureBasic visual designer is free, and
has gadgets that yours doesn't (PanelGadgets, IPAddress, etc). But there's simply no
way I'm going to fork over $39 just so I can create my windows. Yes, I know that it
creates event loops and so on, but that's not worth such a high price, IMO. Sorry for
being so blunt.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ebknoppert.

Yes, that is blunt.
If you know me better you would know that i extend these kind of tools on regular bases.
(You could have known by reading my forum messages evt.)

The controls you mention is simply a time issue, these are controls no one uses except 'one'.
The panelgadget, thought it was a frame (button class), if not i will check it out.
PureBasic lacks more controls ands controlstyles which i find more important than the IP gadget.
(Could not find a multiline textbox for example, maybe i'm wrong)

Does PureVision support events per control?
It's a goal for PBDev.

$45 is nothing, but maybe it is for an hobbiest?
They will use PureVision cause it's free, why not..

PBDev gives you an easier use of modularity.
But that's an opinion (which i know by practice)

PureBasic *might* currently have a few bugs (which i'm not aware of yet) which makes it an hobby compiler to you, for myself I THINK NOT.
I have seen the capabilities PB offers, it should not be judged as hobby compiler.
Therefore, why judge a 3th party tool of only $39/$45 as expensive?

At the end, the combination will be great.

Edwin,
Sorry for any harsh word i made, not intended per se.


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> Yes, that is blunt.

Sorry about that. I guess I'm just disappointed that I can't afford these new apps
which, to be honest, do look like they have great potential. Keep up the good work.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ebknoppert.

Ok :)


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ebknoppert.

BTW, if you have a money problem, let me know ok?
We'll see what price we can do for you.

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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by blueb.

Edwin's tools are the best in the business. He is very dedicated to his products. He gives away many small tools and products as well. Check out his free PBSoft Controls DLL (written in PowerBasic, but the DLL should be useable in Pure, but I haven't tried yet)

I purchased PBDev because Edwin continually keeps improving the product and hasn't yet charged for these improvements. Besides $39.00 is cheap if a product saves me more than 5 hours of my time!

Besides...I figure if I support PB programmers, PureBasic will become even more popular and that can only benefit ME!

--Bob
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ebknoppert.

Just my words Bob!
I'm confident in PureBasic, even if i use PowerBASIC mostly.

(BTW, next week it will be $45 as notified on the site)

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Post by Edwin Knoppert »

OK people, it will become better and better.

At this moment almost all (gadget) controls supported.
Any other available Windows-windowclass can also be used.
Menubuilder available
Set control colors using properties.

Take a good look..
8)
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Post by Berikco »

Very very nice Edwin,

PBDev has the potential to become a very good developer package for PureBasic 8)
Keep up the good work.

Some bugs ore strange behaviour i noticed:
It does not seem to be possible to draw button (or any gadget) an a frame3D or Panelgadget.
The frame3D has some repaint problems with the grid if i move the frame with some buttons in it, or move the buttons in the frame3D.
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Post by Edwin Knoppert »

Yes, only VB ( i know of) 'allows' dropping controls into a frame.

Best thing you can is develop your form without it and place the frame at the above the desired controls.
The designer will put it at the back (zorder)

For these almost-never-have-situations i simply move the control temporarily and place it back, but even that is not required.

The painting is because it's a transparent control.
I could do a refresh after a move but it's not a real problem.

I'm not aware of a tab control being able to contain controls.
??
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Edwin Knoppert wrote:Yes, only VB ( i know of) 'allows' dropping controls into a frame.
hehe :) did you take a look at the PureBasic Visual designer that comes with the original PB package?
I'm not aware of a tab control being able to contain controls.
??
This is the way PureBasic works...the PanelGadget() is more than a TabControl...just draw a Panel With Visual Designer, put some buttons on and take a look at the generated code.
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hmm...

Post by Kendrel »

that thing is really nice, but i dont see any reason to buy it for that price.
i mean what can it do, what the official (and good) form designer cannot do.

you are going into the right way, and once it is "like" the VB IDE people may consider to buy it (double click a gadget and edit its procedure for example), but for now it is not needed.

this post isnt ment as an attack or something. i respect you work, and i know it is much work (i've coded a little form designer myself in pb), but lets what you change in the next versions... what do you plan to implement anyway?

so long

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Post by Edwin Knoppert »

The beta currently supports colors.

To be implemented (if possible):
Font support (PB already provides this)
Control events.
Like Form1_Button1_Click()
This sounds simple but once implemented you'll see the benefit of using it as programming tool.
if you don't you probably don't care for that which is quite possible of course.

To me it such a tool delivers an easier way to hold modules etc..
A more modulair way of programming.
This can also be done with the current IDE, sure but this is easier imo.
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hmmm

Post by Kendrel »

that sounds very promising, and i may consider buying it once it is in that stage...

and then there is another problem... i dont have a credit card :)
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