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Address Book (again)

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:58 am
by Fangbeast
Because I got no feedback from the 130 people who dowloaded my app, I held off doing anything till PB4 and I am working on making it a standard (boring!!) interface because that's what people seem to want.

What do people say to the following screen shot?

http://www.penguinbyte.com/apps/pbwebst ... s_book.JPG

If it's okay, I will release a test version soon.

**EDIT**

Okay, here is the first re-authored, boring version. No SAUCE sorry.

http://www.penguinbyte.com/apps/pbwebst ... _pb4b3.rar


**EDIT** Feb 19

1. Saved help with with 16 million colours. it's huge!!
2. Can search the net with firstname,lastname and company. Uses google.
3. Also can use DEL, INS for records from main form.
4. Copy record formatted to clipboard.
5. Copy record to buffer and paste into ADD record mode.
6. Fixed path bug with pre-existing picture directory

Lots more to do. Read the help file.

If the help file is too big for folks, I'll scale it down and provide it as a separate download.

**EDIT** Feb 20

I've been busy cleaning the code and adding more keyboard shortcuts. Also added a nice fade-in and fade out to the main form (Courtesy of some code Rings made for me a few years ago and was wondering..)

1. Does anyone want me to add the fade in/fade out to all the forms?
2. Are there any other SIMPLe things this program needs?
3. Did anyone read the help file to see what else you can do with it?
4. You know you can colour things yourself and save it don't you?
5. Does anyone want me to upload the lastes version?

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:09 am
by blueznl
it's a box? :-)

nice but euh, why would i use it? got outlook, outlook express, my mobile, etc.

i think most people who downloaded it either are happy (good stuff :-)) or don't have a real need for it, otherwise you'd have received comments on it

the fact they have downloaded it means they were looking for something like it

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:02 am
by Fangbeast
blueznl wrote:it's a box? :-)

nice but euh, why would i use it? got outlook, outlook express, my mobile, etc.

i think most people who downloaded it either are happy (good stuff :-)) or don't have a real need for it, otherwise you'd have received comments on it

the fact they have downloaded it means they were looking for something like it
That's the whole point. If they were happy, they wouldn't have downloaded it. And if they didn't like it, I would have appreciated a polite "It sucks, please don't write such crap in my lifetime", or "go away, it's ugly", "stop wasting my time", "you need a shave", "blueznl's leaher g-string is better than your app" etc.

But I didn't get anything so I am asking people, simple.

1. Outlook express isn't an address book. My program is. Outlook express uses the windows address book which is primitive and bone ugly. Uglier than my app.

2. Not many people can afford Microsoft office just to get outlook so they can use the address book. Paying $350.00 (the cheapest I have found office for) is out of reach of many.

3. Having a mobile is nice, but who wants to sit there and key in hundreds of contacts on the tiny keyboard? My program can import and export address books. You can create maps for your various devices. My brother has 350 contacts on his phone, I have around 180. The Sony Ericsson software I have only supports SYNCH to Outlook full (which I cannot afford) or you have to use the tiny screen to do it. I'd rather have an appendectomy while conscious..

So, plenty of reasons for an against.:):):)

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:26 am
by blueznl
>> "blueznl's leaher g-string is better than your app" etc.

:shock: :? :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:47 pm
by Fangbeast
Sorry, I misspelled "leather", but then again, it might not have been leather, it could have been Naugahide!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:58 pm
by MrMat
It's looking really good. Keep up the great work :)

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:24 pm
by utopiomania
I didn't download it because I don't need it, but to be honest it looks a bit too much old skool windows 98 for my taste.
Why not at least enable XP skins for it, and perhaps use some of the new coloring funtions available in 4.0?

I found this on the net, and believe it's true:
I've always remembered that lesson: No matter how good your application is internally, if it
doesn't stand out in a crowd and grab the user's attention, then it's not going to sell.
Keep up the good work though :)

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:25 pm
by SFSxOI
Fangbeast,

This is the first i've heard of it. I'd like to see it though, please do post it when you can.

Thank You

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:40 pm
by Fangbeast
MrMat wrote:It's looking really good. Keep up the great work :)
Thank you kind sir. I've been busy squishing a ton of bugs that I introduced myself between betas.

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:45 pm
by Fangbeast
utopiomania wrote:I didn't download it because I don't need it, but to be honest it looks a bit too much old skool windows 98 for my taste.
Why not at least enable XP skins for it, and perhaps use some of the new coloring funtions available in 4.0?

I found this on the net, and believe it's true:
I've always remembered that lesson: No matter how good your application is internally, if it
doesn't stand out in a crowd and grab the user's attention, then it's not going to sell.
Keep up the good work though :)
1. I had a version that I thought looked more attractive, but people complained that it wasn't standard. You can't please most people no matter what you do I guess.

2. As for standing out in a crowd, I'd better get the features running properly first, before I start adding colours because I kept getting myself in trouble that way. Now I am consulting my wife on colours as she is a business application user and likely to know what looks good, unlike me.

3. I've widened all forms and fields because I need someone to test this on a Unicode platform and the default design was way too narrow for some fonts and languages. WHen that's done, I can implement multi-language.

Loads of things to be done/can be done. Just need testing by humans :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:47 pm
by Fangbeast
SFSxOI wrote:Fangbeast,

This is the first i've heard of it. I'd like to see it though, please do post it when you can.

Thank You
Won't be long now. I've managed to squish some self introduced bugs. Just waiting for some real-estate heavies to go through our house today and I'll get time to release a per-version that's 80% done. Good enough to actually run the database, just not pretty enough:):)

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:34 am
by Pureabc
The screenshot looks great.

Just wondering about the printing options, such as envelopes or labels?

Thanks. :wink:

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:13 am
by Fangbeast
Pureabc wrote:The screenshot looks great.

Just wondering about the printing options, such as envelopes or labels?

Thanks. :wink:
Ouch!! You don't want much do you??? I used a trick (like many of us do) to create a HTML template and feed the result to the web gadget which then transfers the print job to IE's built in print routines (or is that windows's routines, I'm not sure).

To do labels and envelopes would either mean a lot more skill than I currently posess or a print dll for which I have no money so I'm sorry, but that will have to wait a long time.

Maybe one of the forum coders can show me how it's done (I have sene xamples somewhere)

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:12 am
by Fangbeast
For anyone interested, I always put the latest, updated details in the very first post.

Re: Address Book (again)

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:23 am
by PB
> Because I got no feedback from the 130 people who dowloaded my app [...]

Remember the old saying: No news is good news. :)

Your new screenshot looks great. All your apps have always looked good to me.
I personally don't need an address book... my wife has all contact info in a real
paper book, which she can take everywhere in her handbag. :) I do have Office,
with some people's e-mail addresses in it, but I don't use it to look up physical
addresses or anything.