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hehe.

You find some really interesting questions by the "old hands" when you search by author.

Whispers: BTW, that OSversion thing is not the most intuitive find in the docs, nor is everything immediately obvious with the PB syntax.


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True! But I was busy with other stuff atm -_-


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Yeh I bet.. but I don't want to check out.. I'm afraid I could laugh so hard that someone could kick me cause of that!.


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Dare2: Could you could give us some hints to improve that ?


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hmmm... I find OSVersion() to be very straightforward and easy to use..
I had no trouble understanding the documentation on the command either...

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i also think its easy. Just wondering why it says 60 when the debugger recives the command. Maybe its the constant-number?


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i also think its easy. Just wondering why it says 60 when the debugger recives the command. Maybe its the constant-number?


Haven't tried it, but probably, yes...
My guess is that it's a variable flag where it gets bits from.. dunno though, Fred would.. :p

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Why you had to say badwords just for that? :(

rtfm is common tongue in every forum I know and I don't think GPI wanted to insult you. So no harm done, ok? GPI is a fine guy, believe me.

But really, to read the manual is one of the first things you have to do when learning new software. PB is no exception. You don't have to learn it by heart, just read the text diagonal and you will know where to look if you need something.

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a warm welcome to all noobs, newbies, wannabees and self perceived experts :-)

(that's a smiley up there :-))

welcome, we're all nice guys (girls? let's not go into gender dyslexia) on this forum, so go easy on eachother

but euh, read the manual makes some sense :-) although i admit i have read it a few times and still screwed up :oops:

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blueznl wrote:
...i admit i have read it a few times and still screwed up :oops:



who hasn't?! :roll:

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i also think its easy. Just wondering why it says 60 when the debugger recives the command. Maybe its the constant-number?


What do you mean by 'when the debugger recieve the command' ?


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Fred wrote:
Dare2: Could you could give us some hints to improve that ?

Took me a second or several to work out what you were asking. I assume about the PB syntax being not immediately obvious?

If so ...

Briefly, not all the syntax and structuring of PureBasic is immediately obvious, vis-a-vis other basics. Cf Instr v FindString, Gadgetry, ReadFile (to open file) and etc.

No beef with that, but it means expect questions from people beginning with PB, even if there is some experience with other langs. Especially if there is experience with a language where expections and assumptions are imported in.

With the OSversion, for example, could as well be assumed to return a string like "#PB_OS_Windows_2000" if you're not familiar with constants. Sound like a stupid assumption? Maybe it is, but the task of the docs is to clarify, and cover that sort of possible assumption. So a link or cross-reference to an explanation on Constants would be useful.

To improve:

HowTos; Cross-references; Notes on differences; More examples in docs. But that means more docs. More work. :)

Lots of points were covered in the general discussion board on getting docs up. We can continue that here, if desired. Or there. Or let it lie. :)

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It should be remembered that the opinions posted here are purely my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the PB community as a whole, nor, especially, members of the original inner circle.

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If we need to explain what is a constant in every command, the help will become a mess. There are basic rules (explained at the very start of the reference manual) which can't be explained every time you encounter them. I tough it was the name which was wrong, but obviously not. I've added an example to the help file to clarify the use of the command.


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Hi Fred.

I agree re explanation per page.

But turning keywords into hyperlinks that, when clicked, go to the relevant page is reasonable.

With OSversion itself, this is just an eg that happens to be used here, in this thread, in the light of previous posts.

The whisper, BTW, was an aside for those slamming a guy who had made half a dozen posts at most at the time of slamming. Now Gus seems a reasonably robust sort of guy and looks like he can hold his own.

But when an ethusiastic but fragile potential buyer makes a post and gets slammed, you lose a sale. And we all lose out - more successful you are, more we get, and faster.

So it is better the docs do all they can to reduce this loss potential.

Anyhow, I know the docs area is being addressed. I'll shut up.


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Why you had to say badwords just for that? :(


Some Standard "Words":
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AFAIK : as far as i know
BTW: by the way
FAQ(S): Frequently asked question(s)
FUP(2): Floow up (to)
IM([NS]H)O: in my([not so] humble) opinion
LOL: laughing out loud
OT: off topic
Q&A: questions and answers
RTFL: rolling on the floor laughing
RT(F)M: read the (fucking) manual
THX: thanks
TIA: thanks in advance


Freak said, that you should see in the help-file about "osversion()" and then you ask for something, which stand in the help-file.


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