Nice Approach To Pirating

[c4s]

@IdeasVacuum
Well, don't miss the recent ruling which takes another - more realistic and brave - approach:
File sharing copyright material considered legal in Portugal

[IdeasVacuum]

More realistic and brave? Did you read the article?

[Zach]

I read the article, not sure what the point was (if the author was trying to make one)

Just seemed like more whining for cracking down on illegal sharing.

If you are sharing on a Peer 2 Peer Network, there is NO private intent.


If I want to create a "private" file share, so I can access something somewhere else, or share something with a friend, I would use my Dumptruck (or other service) online storage account, Not a P2P network....

[ramme]

This thread is about 5 years old, but as a new registered user,
I can't help noticing something. The ratio of guests to users always
seems between 10 and 20 to 1. Does this mean anything?

Why would people be browsing the forum, if they don't have PureBasic,
And if the have purchased PureBasic, why not register? The members
are extremely helpful and you get to ask questions.

Currently:
In total there are 57 users online :: 4 registered, 3 hidden and 50 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)
Most users ever online was 470 on Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:18 am
Registered users: Baidu [Spider], ramme, StarBootics, Yahoo [Bot]

[Demivec]

Why would people be browsing the forum, if they don't have PureBasic,
And if the have purchased PureBasic, why not register? The members
are extremely helpful and you get to ask questions.

Are you implying that these 'guests' are pirates? Who can tell? For the most part I think they are just individuals who may not want to register or can't register (i.e. students using a school's computers).

Students and others may be introduced to PureBasic through the demo version and be browsing the forum as a knowledge base and a resource of examples.

[ramme]

Are you implying that these 'guests' are pirates?

I am sure some of them are, but they would have be real lazy
or cowardly pirates, since you don't have to have purchased
PureBasic to register and the only personal information you
have to provide is your email address.

Apparently, even spiders and bots can register.

I just find it strange that so many people browse without registering.

In total there are 69 users online :: 6 registered, 6 hidden and 57 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)
Most users ever online was 470 on Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:18 am
Registered users: Baidu [Spider], Exabot [Bot], omnikam, ramme, StarBootics, Yahoo [Bot]

[freak]

I read a ton of forums without registering or logging in. Whats wrong with that?

[ramme]

There is nothing wrong with that. We all do.
You can't Google programming stuff without
having a forum or two show up. Maybe the
PureBasic forum just has real interesting
topics and statistically gets a lot of hits.

I am sure that the forum administrators
have the stats on visitors. If they came
directly to the forum or were sent by a
search engine.

[ricardo]

I read a ton of forums without registering or logging in. Whats wrong with that?

I am agree.

Most times, when i am thinking to purchase some software, i go and read in their forums to help me to get a better idea about the product.

Also, many people that comes to this forums, get here because a Google search about many programming stuff.

I don't think that we can think that their are hackers, pirates, etc.

30 minutes ago i was reading about MIDI in this forum and i saw some guests reading the thread... pirates comes to the forum to read about decoding a MIDI file??????

I don't think that this forum should follow Mr Trump's ideas and build a wall to block people from visiting the forums

[ramme]

Are you saying that pirates aren't all murderers and rapists?
I don't know about that. I assume that there are some good
people there.

But then, software pirates are not real pirates, after all.
Just dishonest or really poor people. As for the crackers
themselves, I think that it is just an ego thing.

[Samuel]

I don't sign in unless I see a topic worth posting in, but I browse the forums almost every day and usually more then once.
Which means 99% of the time I'm considered to be one of those guests. I think that's a pretty common practice for a lot of people.

[ramme]

That's very interesting. I thought most people would just set up
an automatic login, like I did. I hate to log onto things. But I
guess that's just me.

[#NULL]

the forum search can't handle all cases so a google seach is often helpfull. i will be a guest if i come from such a search result.

[ramme]

Since the answers I have received are predominately in
favor of few or no pirates and I don't have access to the
forum sysadmin, I decided to see how easy it would be
to find a pirated copy of PureBasic.*

Well, my web adviser was in a state of constant red warning
and my virus scanner was ready to go into virtual cardiac
arrest. I wasn't able to find a safe clean one and finally gave
up in disgust.

It seems the the virus makers, (Is there a term for them other
than scumbags?) have taken the pirated software business
away from the pirates, which is , ironically good for software
vendors. I think someone mentioned that earlier.

Any opinions on that?

* Don't try this unless you are booting from a safe USB drive.

[tj1010]

My insight from decades of following RCE and the "scene":

1. The teams don't care who you are. Utility software "nuker" teams will just run through everything you sale that has an unlockable binary and move to another vendor. They tell the users to just DNS or firewall block your domain they don't care about your checks which is is why they don't patch them; it doesn't interfere with usage, so why would they?
2. If petty idiots are cracking your software you should stop and think about what that means..
3. Most "nuker" teams will crack all a company's stuff and justify it publicly that it's just a poor copy of a solution that costs money(which is actually true a lot of the time)
4. People who write protectors know they can't actually stop people they can only eliminate most crackers and make the top-talent take longer. Look at StarForce and Denuvo timelines(the top two protectors ever used wide-spread(I know the best one and you've probably never heard of it; it's coded by a pirate who can easily defeat either of those))
5. You need a isolating MMU and VM with secure embedded crypto(load only signed bin into VM enforced in MMU silicon) and silicon-protection(anti electron microscope and laser) to stop software piracy. Existing TPM can almost do this they just need the MMU firmware(which has been possible since the 90s vendors won't do it for some reason)

Sign your installers and put full binaries behind paywall.. Done.. No? Go look for a PureBASIC 5.60 torrent or warez forum post..